Comments Thread For: Marquez Shreds Pacquiao's Record, It's Getting Personal

[Melgaszar]

Marquez is doing his job correctly by saying things like this, he's looking to make noise with statements like that and it's working, if he keeps up a media blaze he will build anticipation amongst the media and that is always nice. keep up the good work Juan Manuel

Maybe it's the other way around. Why would Pacquiao reward Marquez' insults with a big payday? Pacquiao is secure enough in his accomplishments to be swayed by Marquez' assertions.

If the fight happens it would be because of Marquez' own accomplishments and not because of what he is saying.

[joelab75]

JMM has fought more slick boxers in his career win or lose than Pacquiao has. So he's right on the fucking mark breaking down Pacquiao's tailor made opponents. And he beat Chris John you idiots.

he lost to Chris John u idiot! if Marquez was so GOOD he should have dominated him and Pac on Marquez' prime weight. Marquez is overrated. his career best win was against 2007 past prime Barrera and the result was questionable. if JMM was so good he shouldnt have any problem with Barrera, Pac or Chris John. so stop overrating this guy. his last 3 wins was against Katsidis(Class D fighter) Diaz 2x(Class D+ fighter). so tell me who is fighting weak opponents? even Cotto's resume will ***** on Marquez' resume.

Cotto's resume>>>>>>> Marquez resume..so Marquez is not on Pac's level. if you are a boxing fans you know its a fact!

[shodown19]

It's not okay for Marquez to get a rubber match against Pacquiao, but it is okay for Erik Morales to get one. Same result happened. Manny did not win the first fight of either opponents, beat them the second time. But it was okay for Morales to get a 3rd shot, but not Marquez. Who gave Pac the worst beating he's ever received since Morales I.

I don't understand the logic of *******s these days.

[empiricix]

so if Pacquiao beat Marquez then it will be someone who Floyd just beat??? lol
And Pacquiao beat Barrera first.
Marquez beat Diaz who lost to Campbell before him.
Beat Katsidis who lost to Diaz and Casamayor before him
Lost to Chris John before Pacquiao beat him (so Chris John must be better then Pacquiao)
Beat Barrera who Pacquiao put a beating on. (which i thought this fight was closer then many think and actually think Barrera would of won if the ref didn't call the knock down a slip)

So Marquez is just making himself look bad.

Margarito doesn't fight like Clottey, Clottey doesn't fight like Cotto, Cotto doesn't fight like De la Hoya and De la Hoya doesn't fight like hatton.

However, Juan Diaz fights like Juan Diaz, and Michael Katsidis fights like Juan Diaz. Who cherry-picks come-forward fighters again?

Also, Casamayor and Diaz previously destroyed Katsidis. Now, beating him makes Marquez great, even if he kissed the canvas in the process? Talk about eating the leftover of your leftovers.

[LeadUppercut]

he lost to Chris John u idiot! if Marquez was so GOOD he should have dominated him and Pac on Marquez' prime weight. Marquez is overrated. his career best win was against 2007 past prime Barrera and the result was questionable. if JMM was so good he shouldnt have any problem with Barrera, Pac or Chris John. so stop overrating this guy. his last 3 wins was against Katsidis(Class D fighter) Diaz 2x(Class D+ fighter). so tell me who is fighting weak opponents? even Cotto's resume will ***** on Marquez' resume.

Cotto's resume>>>>>>> Marquez resume..so Marquez is not on Pac's level. if you are a boxing fans you know its a fact!

Sorry, I know that you're talking with Iceta, but I can't agree with anything that you said there my friend.

"he lost to Chris John u idiot"

Technically, yes. But I saw that fight, in fact I'm sure that I've still got it, and Marquez beat Chris John, just like he beat Manny.

" if Marquez was so GOOD he should have dominated him and Pac on Marquez' prime weight "

Hold on, if Manny was so good, then you would think that he could actually beat Marquez after knocking him down 3 times in the first round and breaking his nose. And most of the developed world knows that Marquez won the second fight.

" Marquez is overrated "

No, Marquez is under-rated. P4P, he beats Manny hands down. He went up 4 divisions higher than his career-best weight to fight the very best P4P fighter on the planet, and yet Manny will not even fight somebody from his own division without a catch-weight.

Come on, unless Marquez agree's to 147, Manny won't go anywhere near him.

" his career best win was against 2007 past prime Barrera and the result was questionable "

No on two counts. The result was not questionable at all. That fight was closer than the scores suggested, and yes I am well-aware of the slip, but the result was not questionable.

It would be more accurate for you to say that the unfortunate incident cost Barrera any momentum that he might have had at that stage of the fight, but that does not make the result questionable, because according to you..... " if * was so good he shouldnt have any problem with * "

But that is incorrect anyways, because Marquez best win was the second fight against Manny

P4P, Marquez is a better fighter than EVERYBODY you mentioned in that post.

[damned1974]

there is a big difference in calling out somebody and disrespecting your opponents. he is not only putting down pacman but everyone that pacman fought. if pac is such a ****ty fighter then why chase him. why beg for a fight. there are other boxers that deserves a fight with marquez. maybe we should start with an opponent that pacquiao beat. how about miguel cotto.

Gimme a break-how the hell is anyone going to get a fight with Pac??? What we do know is that people with a criteria have had success in obtaining fights with him as of recent....we know that fighters who have come off of recent poor fights, ko's, and on the downside of their careers have been chosen by Pac's team and if they appeared to not have slipped enough,they were asked to shed more pounds by weight stipulations).

A few years ago, when Shane Mosely was looking better fighting than he does today, he asked for a Pacquiao match-up even at 140 and he was a gentleman about it-he still is,but it wasn't until Shane has looked like dirt 2 times in a row that Manny's team had started to consider him-and it has been this way from team Pacquiao since after he fought Marquez the second time.

I don't believe Marquez would win this fight,but if both guys fight at 140 (which Pac CAN make),then it would probably be more entertaining (and sadly,more competitive) than the current version of Shane.That tells you how much Shane has slipped as well as how poor Pac's opposition has been.

[start11]

if marquez believes that he already win twice to pacquiao, what is the point of fighting him again for the third time? Maybe its for the money right?

[whapak]

Old Marquez want a million dollar by belittle the one who can give to him.

OK OK I think JMM has a point there, Pacman wins against an old GBP boss Oscar, and Hatton was a bum already, the same with Barerra, Margarito, Morales, Joshua ......

Then if he knows that he wins against Manny and He think all manny's fight is an easy one... Then maybe he should met this condition before he land a multi-million fight contract with Manny..

Marquez should beat the ff:

1. He should fight fist and knockout Hatton in the 2nd round OR
2. He should fight and retire oscar in 7th round or
3. He should fight margario or
4. fight and TKO COTTO in 10th round

if he met one of this condition I think he can get a best argument for Pacquiao 3rd fight....

IS THAT FAIR? hahahaha LOL

[joelab75]

Sorry, I know that you're talking with Iceta, but I can't agree with anything that you said there my friend.

"he lost to Chris John u idiot"

Technically, yes. But I saw that fight, in fact I'm sure that I've still got it, and Marquez beat Chris John, just like he beat Manny.

" if Marquez was so GOOD he should have dominated him and Pac on Marquez' prime weight "

Hold on, if Manny was so good, then you would think that he could actually beat Marquez after knocking him down 3 times in the first round and breaking his nose. And most of the developed world knows that Marquez won the second fight.

" Marquez is overrated "

No, Marquez is under-rated. P4P, he beats Manny hands down. He went up 4 divisions higher than his career-best weight to fight the very best P4P fighter on the planet, and yet Manny will not even fight somebody from his own division without a catch-weight.

Come on, unless Marquez agree's to 147, Manny won't go anywhere near him.

" his career best win was against 2007 past prime Barrera and the result was questionable "

No on two counts. The result was not questionable at all. That fight was closer than the scores suggested, and yes I am well-aware of the slip, but the result was not questionable.

It would be more accurate for you to say that the unfortunate incident cost Barrera any momentum that he might have had at that stage of the fight, but that does not make the result questionable, because according to you..... " if * was so good he shouldnt have any problem with * "

But that is incorrect anyways, because Marquez best win was the second fight against Manny

P4P, Marquez is a better fighter than EVERYBODY you mentioned in that post.

nobody was saying Pac was so good when he fought JMM the first time. or even when he beat Barrera. he was a one dimentional fighter with a power on his left hand and some speed. but JMM couldnt get the W. like ive said if he was so good Marquez would have beat those guys convincingly not a close fight.

P4P marquez is a better fighter? says who? you? so i have to believe that? he couldnt even dominate a 2007 version of Barrera. Barrera's best weight was 122 and 126 lbs not 130 and gave JMM all he could handle. look at his resume and tell me he is really GOOD?

who would have thought that Manny's best weight was around 140 lbs and up? wellall knew Manny was already a pretty good boxer, not great but good when he was fighting in a lighter weight. but now we see a different Manny Pacquiao in a higher weights.

P4P he beats Manny hands down? like a one dimentional fighter who took him to the limit in 126 lbs? Chris John who took him to the limit? old past prime Barrera who almost beat him? is that what you call HANDS DOWN HE BEAT MANNY?

when he retired they will look back at what he accomplished in boxing not just against Pac. there is nothing in Marquez resume that will make him ATG. do you agree? if not tell me why would you consider him ATG.

after Manny's last fight against Marquez he won 4 more titles. one was a lineal. it was more like destroying his opponents not just beating them. what Marquez has done after a Pac fight? fought Juan Diaz 2x, old past prime Casamayor and beat Katsidis who are actually considered a D or C class boxers.

[loui_ludwig]

JMM was impressive against Diaz and Katsidis. He was getting hit but still beat those 2. But you see him against Mayweather, at 147 he is not at his best. Against Cotto, Clottey, and Margarito, he probably lands more compare to Mayweather fight. But this guys weight 155-165 during fight night.

-Margarito has a good chin and will still go forward. Margarito has fought Cotto and Williams, both bigger puncher than JMM. Margarito will bully him.
-Cotto is a strong puncher and has speed. Cotto's jab was effective in the first couple of rounds against Pac, but Manny just took over with his speed and better foot movement. If Cotto's jab is effective agasint Pac, then it would be more effective against JMM.
-Clottey has height and speed over JMM. Even Clottey's jab was landing against Pac, it will do the same to JMM but this time till the end of the fight. Joshua has effective punching, good defence, and can counter.