Martinez = what he is doing is *****.

[R.M {7}]

BLAH.

People label Floyd a ducker because he is one.

Have you actually looked at the list of 154 lately?

Who there can beat Pac-q?

http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/jr_middleweight/

[War Dinamita]

Floyd and Manny both fought and won at 154.

Martinez is the best fighter at 154 and 160. Since when do we have height classes in boxing? Didn't Pac's team said height doesn't matter when Manny was getting ready to fight Margacheato?

Margacheato and Martinez are similar size.

[OpaiSoma]

Just move on... this is a total missmatch, martinez knows this, its a waste of time pursuing this in my opinion.

People are using the light middle belt to undermine their size disparity. Theres a fallacy in that logic.

But martinez has a valid point on the catchweight and the belt legitimacy- thats all there is too it.

If Margarito is the same size as Martinez then theres no problem fighting at 150, and nobody can argue, but you see its another catchtweight that people will question- theres a no win situation. Do they really think they have the leverage to make pac go another 4lbs in weight- I dont think so.

But the point im getting here is that neither of the fighters should fight because of the gap within the two. Nobody will get a credit. Martinez will be weight drained if he losses and Martinez isnt getting any credit fighting an opponent who is 2-3 division below, with 20lbs advantage and 5-6 in height and reach if he wins.

[Rick Grimes]

Pacquiao has a 154 title and you complain because someone wants to fight him at 154?

[REDRUM619]

People label Floyd a ducker because he is one.

Have you actually looked at the list of 154 lately?

Who there can beat Pac-q?

http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/jr_middleweight/

well at 154 without a bull**** catch weight

Saul Alvarez,Alfredo Angulo **** even kermit would make **** hell for pac

[R.M {7}]

^ I agree, but none of those fighters would have beaten pac - would have given him hell though.

Pacquiao has a 154 title and you complain because someone wants to fight him at 154?

Wrong, he wants Pac-u at 155-156. Seroisly, he has a 154 belt weighing in at 144.6 for that fight.

You see?

[Boxin']

Everything he has ever done before is nothing to me anymore. That kind dude is replaced with a fraud.

What the ****? Since when is it ok to call out two guys who is smaller than you and two divisions lower than you?

To maker things worse this fraud is calling out one who is a 5'6 that naturally weights around 146 and has never, ever gone pass 145 in his official weight ins. When he (Martinez) normally weights around 170 or above (sometimes below) naturally at fight nights.

What a fraud, IMO. JMM is more talented than this fraud and I hope Margo gets a shot at this wanker again and beats him.

Pac holds a title at the 154 pound weight division, true or false?

[Gino Ros]

Everything he has ever done before is nothing to me anymore. That kind dude is replaced with a fraud.

What the ****? Since when is it ok to call out two guys who is smaller than you and two divisions lower than you?

To maker things worse this fraud is calling out one who is a 5'6 that naturally weights around 146 and has never, ever gone pass 145 in his official weight ins. When he (Martinez) normally weights around 170 or above (sometimes below) naturally at fight nights.

What a fraud, IMO. JMM is more talented than this fraud and I hope Margo gets a shot at this wanker again and beats him.

you are wrong. and let me tell you why:

what Sergio is doing is what EVERY boxer should be doing: he is challenging another champion for his belt, at the normal weight limit.

Manny has a belt at 154, and he said "OK, Manny. I will challenge you for that 154 belt".

A belt, by the way, that Sergio held less than a year ago.


Was Glen Johnson a b!tch for joining the SuperSix? If you can make the weight healthily, then that is now your weight class. And if Sergio kills himself to get there, isn't that an advantage for Manny?

[Gino Ros]

Just move on... this is a total missmatch, martinez knows this, its a waste of time pursuing this in my opinion.

People are using the light middle belt to undermine their size disparity. Theres a fallacy in that logic.

What is wrong with challenging a champion for their belt at the regular weight limit? When did that become a bad thing in boxing?

[Bushbaby]

Martinez has spent most of his career at 154,within the last 2 years he's been no less than #2 at that weight!!Pacman destroyed Cotto who went up in weight & beat a champion that team Pacman said was too big!!So why is Pacman who is greater than Cotto,getting a pass for beating a stablemate at a catchweight!!The pfp king is sooo great,then why doesn't he fight the best fighter at 154,why should he be praised for fighting a cheater at a catchweight who has already been beheaded by Mosley??