Simple question: How could Pac win the 154 belt weighing 144?

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  • megadeth
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    #1

    Simple question: How could Pac win the 154 belt weighing 144?

    This is just a questions because I don't understand, so please not trolling.

    How could Pac win the 154 belt weighing 144? I know they had the catchweight of 150, but that is within the rage of JMW(148-154). Wouldn't he have to be within the weight limit for the bought to be for a belt?

    Also, I commend Pac for being able to beat Margarito being much smaller, even though I think Margarito's style, speed and reflexes is tailor made for him and they, but shouldn't Pac have to meet the at least 148? To me, that is another advantage that they took. He weighed in less, trying to keep his speed and endurance, while making Margarito go down to 150 possibly draining him and sapping a little strength and endurance. How can this be? Serious queston.

    If Pac had to weigh 4 lbs less, that would've probably been a disadvantage for him. No?
  • RSBonos
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    There is no minimum weight only maximum, although the commission will prevent a Calderon fight at HW for example.

    and how the hell is being smaller an advantage? also Margarito is a career welterweight .

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    • OpaiSoma
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      #3
      Originally posted by megadeth
      This is just a questions because I don't understand, so please not trolling.

      How could Pac win the 154 belt weighing 144? I know they had the catchweight of 150, but that is within the rage of JMW(148-154). Wouldn't he have to be within the weight limit for the bought to be for a belt?

      Also, I commend Pac for being able to beat Margarito being much smaller, even though I think Margarito's style, speed and reflexes is tailor made for him and they, but shouldn't Pac have to meet the at least 148? To me, that is another advantage that they took. He weighed in less, trying to keep his speed and endurance, while making Margarito go down to 150 possibly draining him and sapping a little strength and endurance. How can this be? Serious queston.

      If Pac had to weigh 4 lbs less, that would've probably been a disadvantage for him. No?
      There should be a rule if he doesnt go over 147 or 1 division lower, he wouldnt be able to fight.

      This is just for the players safety.

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      • Russian Crushin
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        #4
        The division is 154, meaning the fighters have to weigh at or under that

        Only people that would ask this kind of question are people that don't know boxing at all or are casual fans at best

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        • megadeth
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          #5
          Originally posted by Russian Crushin
          The division is 154, meaning the fighters have to weigh at or under that

          Only people that would ask this kind of question are people that don't know boxing at all or are casual fans at best

          Because I don't know the exact rule for weight, that means I don't know boxing? Ok, whatever. Then why do they have "weight classes? 154 is a limit and I would've assumed that a fight would not be allowed to go on, if a fighter is below the weight limit. At least for safety reasons. Makes sense to me.

          By the way, how often does this issue come up in boxing? You act like this is a common thing that has happened.

          With some of the things you say on this board, you are the LAST person that should be saying someone "don't know
          boxing".
          Last edited by megadeth; 11-27-2010, 04:30 PM.

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          • megadeth
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            #6
            Originally posted by RSBonos
            There is no minimum weight only maximum, although the commission will prevent a Calderon fight at HW for example.

            and how the hell is being smaller an advantage? also Margarito is a career welterweight .
            Of course being smaller can be an advantage. If it wasn't they wouldn't bother asking for catchweights.

            Also, If Pac had 4 extra lbs on him, do you think he has the same speed and advantage? I don't think so. What he might give up in extra strength (something he didn't need), he gains in speed and endurance.
            Last edited by megadeth; 11-27-2010, 05:21 PM.

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            • ModernTalking
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              #7
              I didn't know also, I thought you had to come within the weight class bracket. PAC can defend his 154 title against Gamboa at a catchweight of 132. If Gamboa win he can defend it against Calderon at 117. Calderon can be the 154 champ.

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              • megadeth
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                #8
                Originally posted by ModernTalking
                I didn't know also, I thought you had to come within the weight class bracket. PAC can defend his 154 title against Gamboa at a catchweight of 132. If Gamboa win he can defend it against Calderon at 117. Calderon can be the 154 champ.

                You didn't know this? U must "don't know boxing"!

                Sounds perfectly reasonable to Russian Crushin.

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                • | THE KING |
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                  #9
                  It's a basic rule.. there is no weight minimum.. just a limit that you can't exceed.

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                  • loui_ludwig
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                    #10
                    Because the WBC sanctioned it and Texas commision didn't make a big deal about it.

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