Comments Thread For: Random Holiday Musings: Mayweather, Pacquiao, More

[MindBat]

shane - floyd was cooked

PAC - FLOYD = OST = vacation / no fight

jmm - katsidis = no OST
berto - hrnds = no OST
rafa marquez - jml = no OST
froch - abraham = no OST
serge - paul = no OST


are you people did not/ will not watch the above fights because there is /was no OST?

[jltsmae]

^^^^^^^^ OPINION...

jmm - katsidis = no OST
berto - hrnds = no OST
rafa marquez - jml = no OST
froch - abraham = no OST
serge - paul = no OST


^^^^^ FIGHTS happens..

PAC - FLOYD = OST = vacation / no fight

^^^^^^ FACT!!!

[LeadUppercut]

Shane called Floyd's bluff by taking those tests.

It wasn't a bluff. It was a simple request, and no reason whatsoever to prevent a fight being made. Something was not right there.

[punchmehard]

Name a prime fighter Pac has fought at 147, wait there is none.

*****s definition of shot fighter are fighter with a loss on their record and below are some of their reasons. Therefore only undefeated boxers are still in their prime and Floyd fought "slick" boxers but pac fought face forward boxers.

Pacquiao Fights from May 2009 - Nov 2010
Ricky Hatton (140) = was shot already because Floyd demolished him by running around the ring and had Hatton KOed by exhaustion
Clottey = age 33 is not prime but he didn't punch a lot. Not prime because he is not a slick "AA".
Cotto = age 30 shot because he lost to Margarito. Came off from 2 wins before facing Pac but he is already damaged goods. Won championship belt fight after next fight after a "shot" Yuri Foreman.
Margarito = age 32 shot because he didn't use his handwraps. Mosley already demolished him. Floyd Demolished Mosley.

Mayweather Fights Sep 2009 - May 2010
JMM - age 36 was still in his prime because he was lighter than Floyd and therefore was much faster. Drinking his piss keeps him being on his prime.
Shane Mosley - age 38 when fought floyd. Still in his prime because fighters become shot when age 40. So if pac fights mosley its the shot version already.

[LeadUppercut]

It wasn't a bluff. It was a simple request, and no reason whatsoever to prevent a fight being made. Something was not right there.

And giving 6 different excuses ?

Please......

[punchmehard]

Oh stop it, you two guys are being ridiculous.

Oh wait, you mean..... when Mayweather insisted that Shane Mosley undertake OST's before their fight, that was just Floyd's way of ducking Mosley?

Because, he knew Shane wouldn't accept those ridiculous demands right ?

Jeez, Mayweather was lucky.....
just imagine if Shane had called his bluff and taken those nasty tests

It is absolutely ridiculous for you to think that the OST request was a duck.

The following "duck" excuses are ALL better than your one..........

FLOYD: " **** off, you're not getting 50% "
FLOYD: " **** off, 10 million per pound overweight is ridiculous "
FLOYD: " **** off, you're not a draw "
FLOYD: " **** off, you've had too many losses "
FLOYD: " **** off..... just **** off "

If Mayweather wanted a way out of that fight, do you really think that he would have accepted 50/50? or that silly 10mil per pound demand?

He would have used one of five excuses, and ALL of them would be better than your one..... because, Manny could have simply taken the test.

* OST's are HARMLESS !!
* OST's will be mandatory within a couple of decades
* OST's are mandatory NOW in ALL top amateur sports

But this is the main point.....
* Currently, if an amateur athlete avoids or obstructs an OST request, they are JUDGED GUILTY, by the sanctioning body, and by the public in general.

THE SAME WILL HAPPEN in a few years, because OST will be mandatory at that point in time.

In the future, boxing fans will wonder why Manny insisted upon a cut-off date - which will seem bizarre, because.....
a.) there is no such thing as a cut-off date for OST's
b.) EVERYBODY will be taking OST's as per regulation, at that point in time

Tell me guys.....

Team Pacquiao gave a total of 6 ridiculous excuses why Manny would not undertake random blood tests - which is a fkn joke. Requiring 6 different excuses means that none of them were any good, they just didn't want to take blood tests simple as that......

Floyd was toeing the line..... WHERE THE *** WAS MANNY ?

Guys, tell me..... which one of those 6 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

boxers fought even without undergoing the BS test Floyd thought of. How does a slick AA ask for these tests if the AA's are saying their style would be giving Pac hell. So this testing was just Floyd's excuse.

Of course Shane had no problem because he is desperate for cash. If Floyd won't ask Shane to do the test, his excuse will be exposed right away.

So even without Floyd's BS testing being implemented on all state commissions why do fights move on and nobody has even asked another boxer do undergo the same test?

Floyd's crusade is only for cowards.

[punchmehard]

It wasn't a bluff. It was a simple request, and no reason whatsoever to prevent a fight being made. Something was not right there.

whats so simple about these test then? Don't you know that taking blood around 2 weeks before the fight can affect any fighter as PROVEN by the doctors of the NEVADA STATE ATHLETIC COMMISSION?

Manny bowed down to 7 days and yet Floyd moved his goalpost to 0 days, then takes a vacation because he handing out turkeys is more important than a fight with Pac.

[LeadUppercut]

You are a ***wit.

boxers fought even without undergoing the BS test Floyd thought of. How does a slick AA ask for these tests if the AA's are saying their style would be giving Pac hell. So this testing was just Floyd's excuse.

Of course Shane had no problem because he is desperate for cash. If Floyd won't ask Shane to do the test, his excuse will be exposed right away.

So even without Floyd's BS testing being implemented on all state commissions why do fights move on and nobody has even asked another boxer do undergo the same test?

Floyd's crusade is only for cowards.

Mayweathr didn't invent OST's you moron, they were invented by WADA to catch drug cheats. Anyone who publicly avoids random blood testing is almost certainly a drugs cheat.

You are a silly little pac-boy, or you would know that many fighters have undertaken random blood testing.

* OST's are HARMLESS !!
* OST's will be mandatory within a couple of decades
* OST's are mandatory NOW in ALL top amateur sports, including boxing

Stop with your whiney little excuses.

whats so simple about these test then? Don't you know that taking blood around 2 weeks before the fight can affect any fighter as PROVEN by the doctors of the NEVADA STATE ATHLETIC COMMISSION?

Manny bowed down to 7 days and yet Floyd moved his goalpost to 0 days, then takes a vacation because he handing out turkeys is more important than a fight with Pac.

You are full of **** kid.

Team Mayweather offered a 14-day day cutoff and Manny would not agree.

Mayweather agreed to 50/50, and Mann'y ridiculous $10mil per pound weight penalty, and the fight fell through because Manny was either scared of Floyd, or he was scared of random blood tests.

That sounds pretty cowardly to me.

[GRUSTLER]

No way GRUS, there is no " technically " about it.....

The first negotiation failed because Manny Pacquiao abso-fkn-lutely refused to accept Random Blood Test's with 24 days of the fight.

That fact is recorded in the history books, there is no debating that.

But props for your diplomacy, and for your more-than-reasonable approach.

I agree with you. There is no way people should be saying Floyd
ducked Manny, when he was ready to fight and Manny backed out
because of the random blood testing. That one goes down in
history.

[GRUSTLER]

You are a ***wit.



Mayweathr didn't invent OST's you moron, they were invented by WADA to catch drug cheats. Anyone who publicly avoids random blood testing is almost certainly a drugs cheat.

You are a silly little pac-boy, or you would know that many fighters have undertaken random blood testing.

* OST's are HARMLESS !!
* OST's will be mandatory within a couple of decades
* OST's are mandatory NOW in ALL top amateur sports, including boxing

Stop with your whiney little excuses.



You are full of **** kid.

Team Mayweather offered a 14-day day cutoff and Manny would not agree.

Mayweather agreed to 50/50, and Mann'y ridiculous $10mil per pound weight penalty, and the fight fell through because Manny was either scared of Floyd, or he was scared of random blood tests.

That sounds pretty cowardly to me.

On top of that. Lil Pac SUED them. They have the nerve
to talk about fighting Floyd and he don't want it but Manny
instead of taking them and fighting, he cried foul. That's
why I think Floyd is ignoring these dudes because they
really don't want to fight. Pac has been fighting the same
style opponents for years now. Not sure how Roach would
change Pac style up to compete against Floyd. Freddie
said he would have to switch Manny's already "dominate"
style up to have a chance at beating Mayweather Jr.

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NUFF SAID!

"We'll have a change in sparring partners and style because Mayweather is so different than our last four opponents [Cotto, Ricky Hatton, De La Hoya and David Diaz]. We have to study him really hard. But I know Mayweather really well. I just need Manny to see what I see." Freddie Roach.

TRANSLATION:

Manny Pacquiao ain't ready for Floyd
even after his best performances.

Don't take the Blood test Manny!!!
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YOU CAN'T WIN PAC!!!!