Comments Thread For: Random Holiday Musings: Mayweather, Pacquiao, More

[GRUSTLER]

why do floyd's fans always bring that blood test shyt. In the 2nd failed negotiation,pacquiao already agreed up to 7 days or even closer cut off blood testing but not the day before the fight. So stop bringing up this topic, the truth is that Floyd took a vacation and allowed pacquiao to have no choice but to look for another opponent.

Pacquiao should have just agreed from the beginning and the fight
would have be on. Technically Manny Pacquiao ducked Floyd Mayweather Jr
because of simple random blood testing.

Pacquiao and Mayweather had agreed to unlimited random urine testing, but Mayweather also insisted on random blood testing, even though the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would oversee the bout at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, requires only urine testing.

Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) didn't want blood testing but later relented and agreed to three blood tests: one during the week of the kickoff news conference, which would have taken place next week, one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight and a final test in his dressing room after the fight. Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) would be subject to the same testing procedures.

When they could not come to an agreement, Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, which represents Mayweather, turned to a mediator, retired judge Daniel Weinstein, who had successfully mediated a series of disputes between Top Rank and Golden Boy in 2007.

But after nine hours in mediation on Tuesday in Santa Monica, Calif., and further attempts to come to a resolution on Wednesday failed, the fight was pronounced dead by the Pacquiao camp.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4808708.

Pacquiao should have just took the blood tests. He wanted to
always know when he would be tested? What was the point
of it being random then? Floyd was ready, willing and able
but Pacquiao wasn't and those are the absolute facts.

[jbpanama]

Looks like Boxingscene is trying their hardest to discredit Floyd Mayweather Jr
because of what has been exposed of Pacquiao. Floyd is not even fighting
right now so why all the articles about him? Howcome we never hear
about other fighters personal lives everyday on here? All I ever cared about
was Floyd fighting in the ring honestly. Everybody has their **** to deal
with outside of their jobs and am sure that noe of these guys has a squeaky
clean lifestyle.

The MEDIA is telling U, that 2X2=4, and
U gotta an argument with that...******O!!!

[Thickback]

So what the author is saying is to boycott Floyd if he doesnt fight Manny....so should we have done the same in Manny's last 4 fights?

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Pacquiao should have just agreed from the beginning and the fight
would have be on. Technically Manny Pacquiao ducked Floyd Mayweather Jr
because of simple random blood testing.


Pacquiao should have just took the blood tests. He wanted to
always know when he would be tested? What was the point
of it being random then? Floyd was ready, willing and able
but Pacquiao wasn't and those are the absolute facts.

No way GRUS, there is no " technically " about it.....

The first negotiation failed because Manny Pacquiao abso-fkn-lutely refused to accept Random Blood Test's with 24 days of the fight.

That fact is recorded in the history books, there is no debating that.

But props for your diplomacy, and for your more-than-reasonable approach.

[npad69]

Pacquiao should have just agreed from the beginning and the fight
would have be on. Technically Manny Pacquiao ducked Floyd Mayweather Jr
because of simple random blood testing.

if pac agreed in the first negotiations, floyd wouldve gone to vacation earlier doh!

[jltsmae]

if pac agreed in the first negotiations, floyd wouldve gone to vacation earlier doh!

could be

[MindBat]

Someone needs to write an article on why Mosley and Floyd were able to take and pass the more stringent random drug testing, and why Manny Pacquiao can not do the same.

That would be a very interesting article indeed.

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if pac agreed in the first negotiations, floyd wouldve gone to vacation earlier doh!

could be

Oh stop it, you two guys are being ridiculous.

Oh wait, you mean..... when Mayweather insisted that Shane Mosley undertake OST's before their fight, that was just Floyd's way of ducking Mosley?

Because, he knew Shane wouldn't accept those ridiculous demands right ?

Jeez, Mayweather was lucky.....
just imagine if Shane had called his bluff and taken those nasty tests

It is absolutely ridiculous for you to think that the OST request was a duck.

The following "duck" excuses are ALL better than your one..........

FLOYD: " **** off, you're not getting 50% "
FLOYD: " **** off, 10 million per pound overweight is ridiculous "
FLOYD: " **** off, you're not a draw "
FLOYD: " **** off, you've had too many losses "
FLOYD: " **** off..... just **** off "

If Mayweather wanted a way out of that fight, do you really think that he would have accepted 50/50? or that silly 10mil per pound demand?

He would have used one of five excuses, and ALL of them would be better than your one..... because, Manny could have simply taken the test.

* OST's are HARMLESS !!
* OST's will be mandatory within a couple of decades
* OST's are mandatory NOW in ALL top amateur sports

But this is the main point.....
* Currently, if an amateur athlete avoids or obstructs an OST request, they are JUDGED GUILTY, by the sanctioning body, and by the public in general.

THE SAME WILL HAPPEN in a few years, because OST will be mandatory at that point in time.

In the future, boxing fans will wonder why Manny insisted upon a cut-off date - which will seem bizarre, because.....
a.) there is no such thing as a cut-off date for OST's
b.) EVERYBODY will be taking OST's as per regulation, at that point in time

Tell me guys.....

Team Pacquiao gave a total of 6 ridiculous excuses why Manny would not undertake random blood tests - which is a fkn joke. Requiring 6 different excuses means that none of them were any good, they just didn't want to take blood tests simple as that......

Floyd was toeing the line..... WHERE THE *** WAS MANNY ?

Guys, tell me..... which one of those 6 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

[MindBat]

Oh stop it, you two guys are being ridiculous.

Oh wait, you mean..... when Mayweather insisted that Shane Mosley undertake OST's before their fight, that was just Floyd's way of ducking Mosley?

Because, he knew Shane wouldn't accept those ridiculous demands right ?

Jeez, Mayweather was lucky.....
just imagine if Shane had called his bluff and taken those nasty tests

It is absolutely ridiculous for you to think that the OST request was a duck.

The following "duck" excuses are ALL better than your one..........

FLOYD: " **** off, you're not getting 50% "
FLOYD: " **** off, 10 million per pound overweight is ridiculous "
FLOYD: " **** off, you're not a draw "
FLOYD: " **** off, you've had too many losses "
FLOYD: " **** off..... just **** off "

If Mayweather wanted a way out of that fight, do you really think that he would have accepted 50/50? or that silly 10mil per pound demand?

He would have used one of five excuses, and ALL of them would be better than your one..... because, Manny could have simply taken the test.

* OST's are HARMLESS !!
* OST's will be mandatory within a couple of decades
* OST's are mandatory NOW in ALL top amateur sports

But this is the main point.....
* Currently, if an amateur athlete avoids or obstructs an OST request, they are JUDGED GUILTY, by the sanctioning body, and by the public in general.

THE SAME WILL HAPPEN in a few years, because OST will be mandatory at that point in time.

In the future, boxing fans will wonder why Manny insisted upon a cut-off date - which will seem bizarre, because.....
a.) there is no such thing as a cut-off date for OST's
b.) EVERYBODY will be taking OST's as per regulation, at that point in time

Tell me guys.....

Team Pacquiao gave a total of 6 ridiculous excuses why Manny would not undertake random blood tests - which is a fkn joke. Requiring 6 different excuses means that none of them were any good, they just didn't want to take blood tests simple as that......

Floyd was toeing the line..... WHERE THE *** WAS MANNY ?

Guys, tell me..... which one of those 6 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

Shane called Floyd's bluff by taking those tests.

[jltsmae]

Oh stop it, you two guys are being ridiculous.

Oh wait, you mean..... when Mayweather insisted that Shane Mosley undertake OST's before their fight, that was just Floyd's way of ducking Mosley?

Because, he knew Shane wouldn't accept those ridiculous demands right ?

Jeez, Mayweather was lucky.....
just imagine if Shane had called his bluff and taken those nasty tests

It is absolutely ridiculous for you to think that the OST request was a duck.

The following "duck" excuses are ALL better than your one..........

FLOYD: " **** off, you're not getting 50% "
FLOYD: " **** off, 10 million per pound overweight is ridiculous "
FLOYD: " **** off, you're not a draw "
FLOYD: " **** off, you've had too many losses "
FLOYD: " **** off..... just **** off "

If Mayweather wanted a way out of that fight, do you really think that he would have accepted 50/50? or that silly 10mil per pound demand?

He would have used one of five excuses, and ALL of them would be better than your one..... because, Manny could have simply taken the test.

* OST's are HARMLESS !!
* OST's will be mandatory within a couple of decades
* OST's are mandatory NOW in ALL top amateur sports

But this is the main point.....
* Currently, if an amateur athlete avoids or obstructs an OST request, they are JUDGED GUILTY, by the sanctioning body, and by the public in general.

THE SAME WILL HAPPEN in a few years, because OST will be mandatory at that point in time.

In the future, boxing fans will wonder why Manny insisted upon a cut-off date - which will seem bizarre, because.....
a.) there is no such thing as a cut-off date for OST's
b.) EVERYBODY will be taking OST's as per regulation, at that point in time

Tell me guys.....

Team Pacquiao gave a total of 6 ridiculous excuses why Manny would not undertake random blood tests - which is a fkn joke. Requiring 6 different excuses means that none of them were any good, they just didn't want to take blood tests simple as that......

Floyd was toeing the line..... WHERE THE *** WAS MANNY ?

Guys, tell me..... which one of those 6 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

shane - floyd was cooked

PAC - FLOYD = OST = vacation / no fight

jmm - katsidis = no OST
berto - hrnds = no OST
rafa marquez - jml = no OST
froch - abraham = no OST
serge - paul = no OST


are you people did not/ will not watch the above fights because there is /was no OST?