James Toney: Will He Ever Win The Heavyweight Title?

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  • The Troll
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    #31
    Originally posted by Leo Pradun
    Toney lacks punch power...
    Yeah I know Toney is not a real big puncher at heavyweight. One of the factors that would make the fight interesting.

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    • Boxclever
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      #32
      Pretty sure he could win at least one of the belts, maybe more.

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      • TKODoll
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        #33
        Originally posted by THE TRUTH
        I think he should go with a Ruiz rematch after Guinn...
        Why? He can't fight for a WBA title for two years, so he's not winning Ruiz's title.

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        • zabkillsspinks
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          #34
          Originally posted by THE TRUTH
          Do you think JT will ever get to fight Vitali or Byrd before he retires? I hope JT gets one of those fights and a rematch with Ruiz. Whats your opinion?
          Well he woudl definitely destroy ruiz in a rematch, look at what he did to him with being on steroids (which doesnt help you at all, it slows you down and makes your energy worse) and with only training 4 weeks for the fight. imagine what he would do to him being completely healthy and putting 8+ weeks in the gym in. if he does fight ruiz in a rematch then fine ill never not enjoy seeing toney beat up the ***, but is this really a point to it, i mean does anyoen seriously consider theyre fight a "no contest". i sure as hell dont and as far as im concerned toney is THE UNDISPUTED HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP OF THE WORLD. look at his last opponent he beat and look at the other champs.

          first is golota wich is who brewster beat and ruiz beat golota.

          klitschko beat williams who is terrible anyway.

          byrd beat mccline who definitely would lose to ruiz.

          toney beat ruiz which is the best fighter out of any the guys that the other champs have beaten. its only a matter of time before toney gets those belts around his waist to and is publically knows as heavyweight champ. byrd would be his toughest fight. klit would be embarrassed by james skill and defense. brewster is so unskilled its not even believable.
          toney is going to rule the division.

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          • DiegoFuego
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            #35
            Originally posted by MacKay
            I think Toney could win the heavyweight title. People say that Byrd would be an easy fight for him because Byrd is small. This is a major misconception. Against Byrd Toney will have to be the agressor and he is not at his best having to fight like that. Byrd will leave few opportunities to counterpunch. It is sort of a bad matchup for Toney stylistically. Byrd moves, fights defensively, has the reach on Toney. Has the makings of a very boring Byrd UD. I might be underestimating Toney's ability to fight going forward though just a tad.

            Toney would however beat Brewster just as easy as "sipping a cup of tea."

            I hope at some point Toney fights Wlad. To me that would be one of the intriguing and interesting fights ever. It would be interesting to see how the defensive master counterpunching Toney would cope with the Blistering offence of the giant Wlad.
            and the rock hard chin as well?

            let me tell you a little story about a guy with loads of offense but no defense and the worst chin the division has seen in a good couple eras vs. a guy with the best chin in the business, the best defense in the business, who also happens to be one of the most skilled, most accurate punchers in the history of the sport. i'll make it short. the 2nd guy wins.

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            • STEELHEAD
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              #36
              Originally posted by Leo Pradun
              it wont happen, no matter how many times u dream about it it wont happen...
              i know. its more than likely a pipe dream.but now days with all the clowns ruleing hvwt division and belt companys having to force klitmoe to fight,who knows what could happen.

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              • beez721
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                #37
                Originally posted by zabkillsspinks
                Well he woudl definitely destroy ruiz in a rematch, look at what he did to him with being on steroids (which doesnt help you at all, it slows you down and makes your energy worse) and with only training 4 weeks for the fight. imagine what he would do to him being completely healthy and putting 8+ weeks in the gym in. if he does fight ruiz in a rematch then fine ill never not enjoy seeing toney beat up the ***, but is this really a point to it, i mean does anyoen seriously consider theyre fight a "no contest". i sure as hell dont and as far as im concerned toney is THE UNDISPUTED HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP OF THE WORLD. look at his last opponent he beat and look at the other champs.

                first is golota wich is who brewster beat and ruiz beat golota.

                klitschko beat williams who is terrible anyway.

                byrd beat mccline who definitely would lose to ruiz.

                toney beat ruiz which is the best fighter out of any the guys that the other champs have beaten. its only a matter of time before toney gets those belts around his waist to and is publically knows as heavyweight champ. byrd would be his toughest fight. klit would be embarrassed by james skill and defense. brewster is so unskilled its not even believable.
                toney is going to rule the division.
                lmao. dude youre clueless. toney would get picked apart and dominated by vitali. toney isnt strong enough to bull his way inside. that would be an ugly mismatch. I think even byrd would have a good chance at beating toney. sorry,,,but beating a shot holyfield and a bum ruiz who was knocked around by little roy doesnt impress me,,lol. espescially when he needed steroids to even fight ruiz

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                • TheEvilSaint
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                  #38
                  he already did win the HW title. i heard it myself: "...and NEW heavyweight champion of the world... James LIGHTS OUT Toney!!!" i heard it, i saw it, and i jumped around the room in joy when i realized that ruiz retired after that fight.

                  only a few days later, i almost cried when ruiz came out of retirement, toney was stripped and suspended, and ruiz was GIVEN the title back (on another ****ing silver platter) EVEN THOUGH HE LOST AGAIN.

                  toney is only the 3rd person to go from MW champion to HW champion (the other two are Bob Fitzsimmons and Roy Jones).

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                  • oldgringo
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Double
                    You from Ann Arbor? I ain't heard nobody mention Rosies in a minute?

                    Yeah...used to get my wig split there when I was a kid.

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                    • paul750
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                      #40
                      Toney vs Vitali Klitschko would be a true david and golaith fight. toney has tons of skill, no one would argue with that, but how on earth he would outbox Klitschko i don't know. the knockout possibility is also very unlikly as klitschko has took bombs from the likes of Lennox Lewis and Corrie Sanders. i think Toney would get beat bad, i think theres a chance he would last the distance though.

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