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  • #91
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    Nah man. Martinez has been far more impressive
    against competition than Manny. Manny fought fighters
    not on his level. Martinez has been a very good fighter
    for a long time. This KO over Paul Williams just sealed
    the deal on how great this guy is. No way could that
    be denied. Pavlik and Williams? Come on man. You
    can't front on that.
    pavlik and williams?? really now?? your comparing these 2 with hatton, cotto, clottey, oscar, margarito? Oh wait i forgot all these guys are bums so they dont count right?

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    • #92
      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
      No way. Martinez fought a totally different fight then he did
      in his prior bouts. Martinez would blow Pac up and beat Floyd,
      if Floyd didn't get aggressive and take risk. Martinez can box
      really well, has power and durability. Martinez would have to
      get careless against Pac to lose. Pac wouldn't be peppering
      Martinez up like he did to his last opponents and we all know
      that Pac does major damage when he is constantly connecting.
      On top of that! Pac's speed advantage would be nullified. Floyd
      would have to engage Martinez and open him up because it would
      be too technical between the two. Someone would have to take
      the fight to the other and Martinez seems to have big power.
      I don't know bro. I still am not sold on Martinez, yet anyway. I still find he does sloppy things in there that a top fighter would take advantage of. Beating Pavlik and Williams, while impressive, simply has not sold me because Pavlik simply is not healthy and Williams was showing signs of too much wear and tear even in their first encounter.

      Things like the hands down and circling in the wrong direction into his opponents dominant hand is risky business. It will work against fighters who generally square up, but not against a fighter who can master positioning.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by iNDOLiFER View Post
        i think your going a lil overboard on martinez and his boxing skills. Your making it seem like pac and floyd are just bums off the streets. Pac and floyd can beat martinez and martinez can also beat either of the 2. Who ever is the better well prepare boxer that night will take it. So hop off martinez nuts already.
        Sorry my man. I ain't you. Pac can't beat Martinez. For the
        record, I been a fan of Martinez's boxing skill if you have ever
        been following any of my past posts. Floyd could get beat too.
        I would say Floyd has a shot but Manny doesn't. The thing that
        makes me different from you is that, Floyd Mayweather Jr
        was my favorite fighter and now Martinez took his spot with
        the win over Paul. Shows I am on nobodies nuts because
        that is what being a fan of boxing is about not favortism.
        Manny is probably the only one you will ever respect as a fighter.

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        • #94
          sergio beat pavlik and williams in this past year

          manny beat clottey and margarito

          youre including a big listof mannys wins and just martinez's from this year

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          • #95
            Originally posted by deanrw View Post
            I don't know bro. I still am not sold on Martinez, yet anyway. I still find he does sloppy things in there that a top fighter would take advantage of. Beating Pavlik and Williams, while impressive, simply has not sold me because Pavlik simply is not healthy and Williams was showing signs of too much wear and tear even in their first encounter.

            Things like the hands down and circling in the wrong direction into his opponents dominant hand is risky business. It will work against fighters who generally square up, but not against a fighter who can master positioning.
            Agreed 100%... all of a sudden martinez KO williams now he's the best HAHA!

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            • #96
              Martinez beat bigger fighters, but better?

              Pavlik has been on the slide for a long time, not as impressive as before.

              Williams was still not in that really good status yet. His wins were at low weights mainly and ofcourse his height played a part

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              • #97
                Originally posted by AntDawg View Post
                I seriously hope Pacquiao doesn't fight Mosley....that would just be a waste...
                Yea, like the Tony fight was.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by deanrw View Post
                  I don't know bro. I still am not sold on Martinez, yet anyway. I still find he does sloppy things in there that a top fighter would take advantage of. Beating Pavlik and Williams, while impressive, simply has not sold me because Pavlik simply is not healthy and Williams was showing signs of too much wear and tear even in their first encounter.

                  Things like the hands down and circling in the wrong direction into his opponents dominant hand is risky business. It will work against fighters who generally square up, but not against a fighter who can master positioning.
                  I always thought Sergio Martinez was a good fighter
                  and has been improving. Paul's never been knocked
                  out and he is still primed. First fight they fought in
                  was a war and in the rematch Martinez corrects his
                  mistakes and blows Paul out the water. That guy
                  has skills and shouldn't be denied.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                    Sorry my man. I ain't you. Pac can't beat Martinez. For the
                    record, I been a fan of Martinez's boxing skill if you have ever
                    been following any of my past posts. Floyd could get beat too.
                    I would say Floyd has a shot but Manny doesn't. The thing that
                    makes me different from you is that, Floyd Mayweather Jr
                    was my favorite fighter and now Martinez took his spot with
                    the win over Paul
                    . Shows I am on nobodies nuts because
                    that is what being a fan of boxing is about not favortism.
                    Manny is probably the only one you will ever respect as a fighter.
                    It shows u are a nut hugger cuz u jump from nuts to nuts. Now that martinez score a KO over williams your on his nuts. This tells me your not true you're just a bandwagoner who jumps from nuts to nuts. If floyd was your #1 guy then why change all of a sudden just becuz martinez KO a skinny no power williams? If your a true fan then u stay by your guy win or lose.

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                    • Originally posted by PainKiller View Post
                      Martinez beat bigger fighters, but better?

                      Pavlik has been on the slide for a long time, not as impressive as before.

                      Williams was still not in that really good status yet. His wins were at low weights mainly and ofcourse his height played a part
                      Pavlik on a slide? Not at 160. Inactive yes, but not on a slide.

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