Pac and his unbelievable rise/how?

[illpapi]

I am sorry and anyone can shoot me if they want to but as a former PAC fan I am still skeptical on how he went from having trouble with Marquez to blowing the top guys away like it was nothing. I have to wonder how he went from being a good fighter to being an unbelievable sansation. Most of you will just act naive and not question this but you have to wonder if you have a little common sense! Before a good punch from Marquez would stop Pac in his tracks and now he takes a solid punch from Clottey, Cotto, Margarito and he just smiles like my 2year old daughter punched him. Now, explain how that happens overnight...please, someone explain it!

And for those of you who will be quick to call me a ***** or whatever else don't even bother because I was one of those who actually watched Floyd in hopes that he would loose cause I just never got to liking the guy. So, please save me the nonsense about me defending Floyd because I am not a fan of his and never have been! I am just pointing out some basic facts.

And I know that boxers get better with time but this was not Pac getting better....this was Pac being a great boxer and all of a sudden BOOM...he is the next wonder of the world!

Now, when was the last time that something like this happened with any other fighter in the world? None of us can remember, right? That's because no one can recall it happening. I mean imagine if Mikes Tyson started out a pretty good fighter with pretty decent power and then all of a sudden he starts blowing out bigger guys out of the ring...you tell me you're not going to be a little su****ious about that? You have ask yourself...well, why didn't he do that before? And don't tell me it's the trainer or a new technique. A new trainer or new technique don't help you to take the kind of punches that Pac takes now that he obviously couldn't take before. So, what gives? I don't know but to me the math doesn't add up. I really want to and hope that it's all him, that's all natural but why wasn't it there from the beginning? That's the question I would like answered. In my humble opinion such Big change in such Short time begs the question.........HOW????

[Rolaz]

I believe that Pacman's success is the combination of his God given talents, his good moral standard behavior, and his Trainer's capabilities (a multi award winner) and his Promoter - Bob Arum!

All those unfounded drug issues against Pacman, are nothing but nonsense, because if they are true then the US Drug authorities can clearly caught him!

[Doctor_Tenma]

I believe that Pacman's success is the combination of his God given talents, his good moral standard behavior, and his Trainer's capabilities (a multi award winner) and his Promoter - Bob Arum!

All those unfounded drug issues against Pacman, are nothing but nonsense, because if they are true then the US Drug authorities can clearly caught him!

[PEBBLES!]

Pac never fought the best at 135, 140, 147 & 154

Diaz is the worst LW titlist in history.

Hatton was not better than Bradley.

An average fighter in Clottey, an overrated Cotto and shot, old Oscar were not the best at 147.

Margarito at 154 was an absolute farce and joke.


I'll add to this;


De La Hoya: Shot, past-prime fighter fighting at a weight he hadn't made in 7 years. Drained and totally a shadow of his former self vs Pacquiao. He wasn't physically capable of making any adjustments to even win a single round in their fight.

Ricky Hatton: ****** decision to change trainers so late on in his career and then attempt to incorporate certain Mayweather nuances in his game. Never attempted to change his style, came in head first and got his ass dropped.

Miguel Cotto: Overrated fighter and was never really that good. Folds under pressure and lacks the ability to make any adjustments in his game - won a close decision to Clottey, and it wasn't because he made a late rally to snatch the win, it was just that Clottey is a choke artist who throws away fights.

Joshua Clottey: Average fighter who always finds a way to lose. Made no attempt to make an impact in the fight with Pacquiao and was just another hypejob fight with Cowboys Stadium playing the main protagonist in this HBO fraud special.

Antonio Margarito: Cheat. Fraud. Should never have been given the opportunity to fight again. Got his ass handed to him by Mosley in a much more brutal fashion then Pac ever did. His one + year lay-off and fight with Garcia proved he was past-prime. Besides a single fluke bodyshot, he showed nothing in the fight to suggest he deserved to be there.


Pacquiao is a fraud who continues to duck the best fighter of his era. HBO FRAUD.

[vercingetorix3]

Pacquiao is on PED's. Mayweather is scared to lose his 0. Sergio is a white man who got lucky against Paul Willaims.

Race. PED's. Race. PED's. Race.

[hypodermical]

Pac never fought the best at 135, 140, 147 & 154

Diaz is the worst LW titlist in history.

Hatton was not better than Bradley.

An average fighter in Clottey, an overrated Cotto and shot, old Oscar were not the best at 147.

Margarito at 154 was an absolute farce and joke.


I'll add to this;


De La Hoya: Shot, past-prime fighter fighting at a weight he hadn't made in 7 years. Drained and totally a shadow of his former self vs Pacquiao. He wasn't physically capable of making any adjustments to even win a single round in their fight.

Ricky Hatton: ****** decision to change trainers so late on in his career and then attempt to incorporate certain Mayweather nuances in his game. Never attempted to change his style, came in head first and got his ass dropped.

Miguel Cotto: Overrated fighter and was never really that good. Folds under pressure and lacks the ability to make any adjustments in his game - won a close decision to Clottey, and it wasn't because he made a late rally to snatch the win, it was just that Clottey is a choke artist who throws away fights.

Joshua Clottey: Average fighter who always finds a way to lose. Made no attempt to make an impact in the fight with Pacquiao and was just another hypejob fight with Cowboys Stadium playing the main protagonist in this HBO fraud special.

Antonio Margarito: Cheat. Fraud. Should never have been given the opportunity to fight again. Got his ass handed to him by Mosley in a much more brutal fashion then Pac ever did. His one + year lay-off and fight with Garcia proved he was past-prime. Besides a single fluke bodyshot, he showed nothing in the fight to suggest he deserved to be there.


Pacquiao is a fraud who continues to duck the best fighter of his era. HBO FRAUD.

good job. and you probably predicted pac was gonna lose to all those fighters above.

[nelsoncm]

How ironic.

What you've said about Manny applies all the same to Floyd.

[PEBBLES!]

Pacquiao is on PED's. Mayweather is scared to lose his 0. Sergio is a white man who got lucky against Paul Willaims.

Race. PED's. Race. PED's. Race.

******ed Thread.


Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis

THE TRUTH

Vitali took the fight on just 10 days notice.

Vitali was clearly winning the fight 4-2 on all 3 scorecards at the time of the controversial doctor stoppage. Lewis was badly hurt and was staggering around the ring like a drunk, he barely survived the 2nd round. Lewis was getting outboxed, outworked, outlanded and was hurt several times in the fight.

punches landed

Vitali 156

Lewis 102


Lewis was exhausted, worn down and hurt from the accumulation of punches and was ready to get KTFO again, he collapsed onto his stool at the end of the 6th round, Vitali was the fresher of the two, he was a man on a mission and would've KO'd Lewis for sure if the fight had continued.

All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and booed Lewis after the fight.

Lewis promised Vitali a rematch.

Vitali destroyed Kirk Johnson in 2 rounds and called out Lewis again in the post fight interview. The scared Lewis retired shortly after that fight.

Lewis turned down 30 million dollars for a rematch and retired like a coward because he knew he would get destroyed by Vitali.

Vitali dominated Lewis and scared his bitch ass into retirement.



George Foreman: "Vitali was winning the fight. Lewis got lucky. There has to be a rematch!"

Jim Lampley: "A lucky escape for Lewis who was clearly losing the fight"

Even Emanuel Steward was upset and pissed off at Lewis for blatantly ducking a Vitali rematch.

Lewis is scared to death of Vitali.

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good job. and you probably predicted pac was gonna lose to all those fighters above.

I predicted Pac would beat all of the above, but supported all his opponents cause I want to see this glorified Asian hypejob put to the sword.

[illpapi]

I believe that Pacman's success is the combination of his God given talents, his good moral standard behavior, and his Trainer's capabilities (a multi award winner) and his Promoter - Bob Arum!

All those unfounded drug issues against Pacman, are nothing but nonsense, because if they are true then the US Drug authorities can clearly caught him!

I respect your opinion and all but you obviously didn't answer any of the concerns that I mentioned. If it is as you say (I really hope that's the case) then why weren't his amazing God given talents there all along like the ability to take a solid punch to the stomach and just laugh it off? And what does good moral standard behavior have to do with anything? Also, if he did do anything behind his wife's back....how is that good moral behavior? I'm just curious.