Comments Thread For: Sergio's Destruction of Paul Williams Demotes Mayweather

[antrob]

I would actually favour Floyd. You don't lose a close fight to Paul Williams one time, then go onto beat Floyd Mayweather.

I also favour Jean Pascal over Martinez, because of a massive weight advantage. That's the point of pound for pound. You say, if they were the same weight who'd win, and whom has a better record.

Floyd wins on all accounts.

Kinda sick of the over hyping at times. The idea that in 1/2 fights someone over takes someones achievements spiraling 5-10 fights just shows how knee jerk reaction peoples ranking of boxers can be. And don't tell me people were saying Sergio was on the level of Pac and Floyd pre Pavlik win.

First Pavlik's the best out there, then PW, now Sergio. As exciting as they are and we want them to achieve, they're not on the level of Pacman and Floyd on skills or achievements.

Pacquiao just fought at Jr. Middleweight. I don't care if it was at a catchweight.

So I don't have to compare him and Sergio fighting in a P4P sence, because they can actually fight at a weight class that Manny just fought in.

Sergio will beat him. That's why IMO opinion Sergio is the #1 P4P fighter because he can beat the person ahead of him in a weight class he fights in. Even if it's a pound or two off. Same thing with floyd

[Kris Silver]

Kelly Pavlik was a top p4p fighter when Martinez fought him. And Kermit Cintron is a former champion.

Exactly, was because he was over hyped too. The sudden rise then sudden fall in p4p ranking shows that. It was a realisation and correction as far as I'm concerned, that he was put too high in the first place.

Never mentioned Cintron.

Fact remains, Sergio is a one weight champion with one defence. How that can be placed over a 5 weight champion, with no losses, has faced many more top rated fighters, is nothing but another case of over hyping.

[Kris Silver]

Pacquiao just fought at Jr. Middleweight. I don't care if it was at a catchweight.

So I don't have to compare him and Sergio fighting in a P4P sence, because they can actually fight at a weight class that Manny just fought in.

Sergio will beat him. That's why IMO opinion Sergio is the #1 P4P fighter because he can beat the person ahead of him in a weight class he fights in. Even if it's a pound or two off.

Your being foolish now. Manny was 17 lbs lighter than Margarito in that fight, which is like 3 weight divisions difference.

To even partially make out weight wouldn't be such a big deal with Sergio and Manny fighting is ludicrous, even Sergio admits it is a huge deal to the point he says he wouldn't do it.

[DoktorSleepless]

Exactly, was because he was over hyped too. The sudden rise then sudden fall in p4p ranking shows that. It was a realisation and correction as far as I'm concerned, that he was put too high in the first place.

Never mentioned Cintron.

Fact remains, Sergio is a one weight champion with one defence. How that can be placed over a 5 weight champion, with no losses, has faced many more top rated fighters, is nothing but another case of over hyping.

Martinez is a 2 weight champion. Jr Middleweight and Middleweight.

[boxingfan76]

look pac just won an jr middleweight belt, everybody likes to brag that size with manny doesnt matter so something has to give is manny legit or not?martinez can make 154lbs and he kos both thats the plain truth. if manny cant back up the hype by stepping into the ring with a truly top guy like martinez then he should no be deemed number1 simply put ,pac fights old farts coming off of devastating losses that to me is the definition of a hype job, martinez is the exact opposite, dont lie to yourself the real pnd for pnd number 1 is marvaillla not mayweather or pacyow.

[Kris Silver]

Martinez is a 2 weight champion. Jr Middleweight and Middleweight.

Meh, Interim title at JMW.

[boxingfan76]

Exactly, was because he was over hyped too. The sudden rise then sudden fall in p4p ranking shows that. It was a realisation and correction as far as I'm concerned, that he was put too high in the first place.

Never mentioned Cintron.

Fact remains, Sergio is a one weight champion with one defence. How that can be placed over a 5 weight champion, with no losses, has faced many more top rated fighters, is nothing but another case of over hyping.

the whole 5 weight crap is all hype because pac doesnt even fight the top guys instead he moves up in wt and take the name recognition easiest guys he can find like , diaz,cotto,margarito,hatton. its more respectable to face the top competetion than to be selectivley pecking around fighting old faded has beens, its very dishonest at best. pac is a very good fighter but theres just too much hype in there, mayweathers win over mosley trumps pacs last 5 plain and simple, and even mayweather selectively picks his fights too.

[antrob]

Your being foolish now. Manny was 17 lbs lighter than Margarito in that fight, which is like 3 weight divisions difference.

To even partially make out weight wouldn't be such a big deal with Sergio and Manny fighting is ludicrous, even Sergio admits it is a huge deal to the point he says he wouldn't do it.

How am I being foolish? All of pacquiao's handler's just made a big deal about him winning his 8th "world title". Why is it foolish to expect him to fight the very best around his weight class? Stop making excuses for him.

And Sergio just said last night that he would fight Pac at 156. He didn't say he won't fight Pac, he said Pac won't fight him.

[Kris Silver]

the whole 5 weight crap is all hype because pac doesnt even fight the top guys instead he moves up in wt and take the name recognition easiest guys he can find like , diaz,cotto,margarito,hatton. its more respectable to face the top competetion than to be selectivley pecking around fighting old faded has beens, its very dishonest at best. pac is a very good fighter but theres just too much hype in there, mayweathers win over mosley trumps pacs last 5 plain and simple, and even mayweather selectively picks his fights too.

Floyd's a 5 weight champion, not Manny. Manny is a 8 weight champion.

As for saying Manny doesn't face the top guys, tis ridiculous.

Marcos Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Juan Manuel Marquez, Ricky Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and Margarito....

....were not top 10 ranked guys when he faced them then no?

Well, they pretty much were.

[DoktorSleepless]

Meh, Interim title at JMW.

Nope, full Jr middleweight WBC tittle.