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no, but he gave us some great fights. that's all you can ask for.
doesn't mean pwill should've done thatIn this current climate of boxing, boxers are going for pay days not remaining in their respective weight classes to clean them out.
sure you do... don't move up.Unfortunately the current business climate of boxing doesn't leave with you much of a choice.
if i'm bradley or alexander, I clean out 140 lbs before I move up to fight pac or floyd. some might say that's ****** as **** because you're giving up a payday that might not come around again, but if you ain't ready you ain't ready.It's happening at 140 because half those guys have no other choice, apart from Khan or Ortiz who have the ability to become cross over stars. I guarantee you either Devon or Tim couldn't sell water to a well and I like those guys.
quintana is garbage.Guys like Quintana and Martinez are cluster ****s, slick southpaws that no one else wants a piece of, but at least Paul took the chance and I give him credit for that.
I give pwill credit for fighting martinez, but the rematch took way too ****in long to make. pwill acted like he didn't want it.Comment
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keep fighting and get in contention for their belts. marg is the super champ. fine, beat the ordinary champ. cotto has the gold belt? fine, beat someone up for the silver belt. mosley won't fight? fine, get your promoter to make an ABC org to make a fight with mosley for the mandatory for marg's belt.
look... berto, pwill, and wifbeater are all managed by haymon. why not get haymon to advise one of the other two to fight him.
they can't ignore pwill forever if he fights at 147 lbs.Comment
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I'm not saying what PWill should or shouldn't have done. You have a certain window in boxing where you have your best years, and in those years you look for opportunities to make the best money you can and that means chasing May or Pac, unfortunately it means that for everyone . The point is Williams had the balls to get in the ring twice with Martinez who is a handful for everyone and anyone. Quintana isn't garbage, he was skilled and slick during his best years. To have reached that level and be successful a few times means he was doing something right, but that's merely my opinion. If I was advising PWill I would have told him not to do it. I would have picked a conventional fighter. You have to match your fighter correctly and like a stock watch it grow. Williams in his haste to fight anyone and everyone is to be admired for that, but he paid a price for it tonight and will probably never be the same again. If Williams stayed at 147 or even 154, how many dates would HBO have reserved for him, if any at all? He wouldn't have been making as much money as people think. He simply wanted a big payday and I don't fault him for that.Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 11-21-2010, 03:50 AM.Comment
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nope. in your best years, you take on dangerous fights while you still got your speed and your legs. you don't wanna fight young cats when you're past your prime. you wanna fight the best while you're at your best.
you don't have to chase pac or wifebeater. nobody is forcing you. you choose to do that.and that means chasing May or Pac, unfortunately it means that for everyone .
agreed.The point is Williams had the balls to get in the ring twice with Martinez who is a handful for everyone and anyone.
hell no. quintana is a b-level boxer maybe even c+ level boxer.Quintana isn't garbage, he was skilled and slick during his best years. To have reached that level and be successful a few times means he was doing something right, but that's merely my opinion.
hell no. no ducking or avoiding tough fights. how about getting pwill to fight with some mutha****ing defense. how about advising pwill to get a real trainer. those are better options than ducking fights with martinez.If I was advising PWill I would have told him not to do it. I would have picked a conventional fighter. You have to match your fighter correctly and like a stock watch it grow.
why admired? he's been paid. that's his job ain't it, to fight anyone and everyone?Williams in his haste to fight anyone and everyone is to be admired for that, but he paid a price for it tonight and will probably never be the same again.
c'mon man, he's a haymon fighter... they get HBO welfareIf Williams stayed at 147 or even 154, how many dates would HBO have reserved for him, if any at all?
probably the sameHe wouldn't have been making as much money as people think.
I do. how about worrying about try improving your game instead of improving your bank account? maybe then he wouldn't have gotten KTFO.He simply wanted a big payday and I don't fault him for that.Comment
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Margarito will knock out Martinez
Martinez has a difficult time with Margarito in the first fight. Since then, nothing really change in Martinez style. As they said, styles make fights. At middleweight, Marga will knock out Martinez. Mosley knocked Marga because he was drained to 147 plus the mental warp due to the wrap.
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Called it.......
11-18-2010, 09:50 PM
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Undisputed Champion
Martinez got this one. I think after watching Paul
get tagged by everything in the match with Kermit
"The leap frog" Cintron. Martinez will prove too quick
and skilled for Williams. The first fight, Paul got off
but Martinez was busting Paul up. Both men have
had a chance to train for one another now and that
means Martinez should walk away with the win because
he beat Paul the first time in my opinion. Boxers like
Martinez can hit Paul at will.
I knew Sergio Martinez would be too much
for Paul Williams if he had proper time to train.
Both didn't prior but Martinez was the better of
the two. Guess Paul didn't study Martinez
but Martinez studied Paul.Comment
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