why did pwill ask for the 158 lbs catchweight?

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  • ralph22
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    #21
    you guys are already discredit his win ok..did u discredit pacroids 145 and 150 catchweights

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    • Pullcounter
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      #22
      Originally posted by Iceta Lives
      I think Williams trains harder than Martinez does regardless though and that may be a factor in the fight tonight is that Williams may outlast Martinez if it becomes a battle of attrition. I still think Martinez has the power advantage though even though we saw that sick vid of Paul Williams' training.
      I agree. martinez takes rounds off and that he's the bigger puncher in this fight.

      I made the comment in the compubox numbers post by bigpoppa that williams throws a lot of punches, but martinez is by far more accurate.

      if pwill can increase his accuracy without sacrificing his output he wins.

      if martinez can increase his output (even by jsut a little), without sacrificing his accuracy, then he wins.

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      • Pullcounter
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        #23
        Originally posted by ralph22
        you guys are already discredit his win ok..did u discredit pacroids 145 and 150 catchweights
        I'm not discrediting pwill's victory (which isn't a foregone conclusion)... I'm asking why the catchweight when it's unnecessary. neither guy are true 160 lbers. both are simply exceptional 154 lbers.

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        • sigrab jr
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          #24
          I think everyone should ask for catchweights now since Pacquiao seems to be getting good reception from doing it. Maybe Williams will gain some fans by asking for catchweights especially in title fights.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Flawless*
            Why did Pacman ask for catch weight against Cotto yet allowed bigger Clottey to weigh in at 1547?
            What?

            Anyways there is nothing wrong with this catch-weight fight.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Pullcounter
              I honest think pwill was ****** for demanding a 158 lbs catchweight. martinez can still make 154 lbs. 158 lbs doesn't really benefit him or martinez. it's like asking that they both get water before the fight.

              there's only a couple reasons imho why pwill would ask for a catchweight:

              1) pwill or his team are trying to fool the public that he can still make 147 lbs

              2) pwill or his team think they are big shots and are trying to dictate terms

              3) pwill or his team are worried cause pwill got rocked last time at 160 lbs and think that 2 lbs is gonna weaken martinez

              what's your take?
              Bargaining chip they tried to hold out for more $$ that may not have happened so they say 158 plus Williams was on the canvas last time out so wants a possibly weaker Martinez.

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              • ralph22
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                #27
                Originally posted by sigrab jr
                I think everyone should ask for catchweights now since Pacquiao seems to be getting good reception from doing it. Maybe Williams will gain some fans by asking for catchweights especially in title fights.
                u right man pacquiao gets ATG credit with his catchweights

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                • sigrab jr
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ralph22
                  you guys are already discredit his win ok..did u discredit pacroids 145 and 150 catchweights
                  No they did not. After the Margarito win there were about 5 million threads about Pacquiao being top 5 ATG, Pacquiao being "the best fighter" they ever saw

                  Pacquiao is held to such low standards it's hilarious. It's like if he's a special ed kid that any question he answers correctly he gets a pat on the head.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Iceta Lives
                    Margarito ducked a rematch with him. What are you gonna say? That he petitioned for a mandatory shot? Lol. Yeah a mandatory shot for his vacant belt like Cotto was waiting for. And I still respect Margarito more than a lot of other people do but I refuse up to this day to put the blame on Williams for that rematch not happening.
                    Wake up! Margarito didn't even need to fight him in the first place! William's is such a bitch he wouldn't even give him a re-match! Fucking lanky punk

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                    • sigrab jr
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by jonesy
                      Wake up! Margarito didn't even need to fight him in the first place! William's is such a bitch he wouldn't even give him a re-match! Fucking lanky punk
                      Margarito ducked Williams to cherry pick Mosley and ended up getting KTFO

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