Manny Pacquiao vs Roberto Duran...

[sigrab jr]

only difference is there never came a time when guzman earned his shot and pac kept fighting.

marg earned his shot and then floyd retired.

Earned his shot at what? Mayweather just earned his shot at the #1 WW by beating Judah under Top Rank. Then he left Top Rank because DLH told him he won't get the biggest pay day of his career under Top Rank.

Margarito earned his shot at something, but it wasn't for Floyd. Floyd had been fighting for a shot at the title himself. Floyd is not a title for Margarito to have "earn a shot" for him.

[Left Hook Tua]

Earned his shot at what? Mayweather just earned his shot at the #1 WW by beating Judah under Top Rank. Then he left Top Rank because DLH told him he won't get the biggest pay day of his career under Top Rank.

Margarito earned his shot at something, but it wasn't for Floyd. Floyd had been fighting for a shot at the title himself. Floyd is not a title for Margarito to have "earn a shot" for him.

oh i don't know maybe because marg was #1 ranked ww for a couple of years. maybe he earned a shot at the champion.

maybe.

[Left Hook Tua]

this guy is comparing guzman-pacquiao at 130 to margarito-floyd at 147.

lmfao

margarito was the #1 fighter at ww BEFORE floyd moved to 147.

even after he lost to pwill he was still top 3-4 and eventually #2 and then #1 again.


guzman only became top ranked at 130 AFTER barrera , morales , marquez and pacquiao ALL left or retired.

[The Noose]

Hagler was post-prime for Leonard fight and anyway Leonard is a no-question Top 25 ATG and that would be being harsh.

Hagler learned from those early losses which is why he became the fighter he was.

Hagler was post prime, but then Leonard had only fought once in 5 years.
Could be said that Pac's early losses also made him the fighter he is today. No shame in losing to Morales and JMM.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

He wasn't on my era either I never saw him live but I've seen his fights. You can do the same.
Now, I hate it when people make old school boxers so superior to modern boxers. I think Pacquiao is by no means out of Duran's league, it's so ****** to say that Duran was so much better. I don't know about results but I would give Pacquiao a big shot agains Duran at 147.

I agree. I've seen a lot of Durans fights on tape and I wouldn't say he is definitely greater than Manny. I think Duran hit harder but Manny has far better speed and boxing abilities.

[PacquiaoATG]

Pacquiao will beat Duran. Duran don't have enough speed. SPEED KILLS

[Left Hook Tua]

Pacquiao will beat Duran. Duran don't have enough speed. SPEED KILLS

yeah speed kills.

you know what also kills?

duran.

[ummeed]

yeah speed kills.

you know what also kills?

duran.

lmao! fcking made my day.

[BennyST]

Manny is too fast for Duran.

He doesn't handle speed well? Did you just say he doesn't handle speed well? So, handling the speed with ease of what is generally considered the fastest 147 pounder ever was 'not handling speed well'? Beating Ken Buchanan, Esteban De Jesus, Ernesto Marcel and a million others guys with crazy hand speed is not handling speed well?

I'd go with Pacquiao by decision if I was betting. If I just wanna hate as a ***** i'd pick Duran by TKO1. I don't think Duran handles lateral movement and handspeed very well, he liked fighters to be in front of him.

To be fair, if Pacquiao decides to get ****** and go toe to toe, he'd get stopped by Duran or lose a decision like Leonard. If he fights coming in and out, he wins. You fight Duran's fight, you lose unless you're way bigger than him like Hearns and Hagler.

People think suddenly Pac is a good boxer. People, he's been fighting Cotto and Margarito! He would have no choice at all, even slightly, but to go toe to toe with Duran. He wouldn't beat Duran on the outside because he would get countered too much.

Duran is a counter puncher.....kind of like James Toney, but a very aggressive one. He uses the aggression of another to his best advantage, slips, blocks, ducks and then counters and gets inside. Pac would struggle to land anything hard and enough to beat him by decision, and those body shots that Margarito was landing....well, times them by a fifteen round fight and double the amount landed, and then put them in every single round. Pac does not have good defense, would get hit, and a lot, can't fight inside and doesn't have the know how to outbox Duran.

It sounds people in this thread have never actually watched him....apart from the fights when he was over thirty and at 154 or above when he was into his seventh division.

The big difference is, instead of facing **** like Margarito (well, he did actually and dominated them much easier than Pac dominated Marg: See HOF long time 147 Pipino Cuevas for example or HOF long time 147 champ Carlos Palomino) he was facing top twenty ATG's at their best when he was well past his best years and his own best weight.

Go learn something people.

Or actually, think of it like this: Pac, at 135/147, is fast, not that good a boxer and likes to stand in front of his guy and trade. Now think of someone much bigger, faster, better combinations, more powerful and you have a guy Duran beat. Now think of a guy with much less defense, not as good a chin, and doesn't take body shots and would struggle to hit the other guy that well and you have a serious recipe for disaster.

But once more for slow people....if you think this fight would come down to speed, or if you think Duran was slow, you are immediately saying you don't even know who he is and certainly haven't watched him.

[Left Hook Tua]

lmao! fcking made my day.

duran koing a horse in panama > pac koing a goat in mindanao