Marquez was the last guy on an impressive win streak.
When is the last time Pacquaio faced someone coming off an impressive win?
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what does it mean? unless they got injured it means nothing
i think you guys hear commentators say "coming off a big win!" and repeat that, but fighters dont go from awesome to crap back to awesome back to crap every 6 months just because casual fans react that way when they lose. It's still the same fighter
but its not physically significant, if youre going to grasp at stuff that semantic you may as well look into what his opponents ate the night before the fight and how much they slept - maybe you'll find another patternComment
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Both fighters are certainly guilty in certain respects as to who they've fought recently, they can only fight each other at this point. It depends on how you look at it.
Mayweather- took on Mosley coming off an impressive KO win against Antonio Margarito...but he was coming off a long layoff (Mosley).
Took on Juan Manuel Marquez coming off of an incredible war ending in a TKO against Juan Diaz. However, Marquez had never fought above 135 and moved up to 144 with Mayweather paying a fine for coming in two pounds above the contracted weight.
Took on Ricky Hatton coming off an impressive one punch KO of Jose Luis Castillo. However, some people say that wasn't the Castillo of old, and impressive as Hatton's undefeated record was, many believed he would be outclassed by Mayweather. Add to that, Hatton would move up to 147.
Took on Oscar coming off of a TKO victory against Mayorga. Floyd moved up in weight, used Oscar's 10 ounce gloves...still beat him. However, many say that Oscar should've been beaten rather easily considering that he wasn't ranked in the top 10 at the time in pound for pound rankings nor 154 (other than the title he took from an awkward Mayorga).
Let's look at Pacquiao's last four opponents (something good, something bad)
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Took on Margarito at a catchweight of 150, Pacquiao had never fought at that weight before. Margarito looked pedestrian against Garcia, but we wondered whether it was just the long layoff that had to do with his performance.
Took on Clottey- considered a fighter who had no known weaknesses as Cotto, Hatton, drained Oscar, etc. However, Clottey's good defense turned out to be his downfall.
Took on Cotto at a catchweight of 145, got pummeled in the first four rounds, but made Cotto wilt throughout the fight. Impressive victory no matter how you slice it.
Took on Hatton at 140, Ricky Hatton was the lineal champ and had never fought at that weight class. Against a world class fighter like Pacquiao, you MUST have defense, something Ricky surely lacked.
It's all relative really. Do you focus on Mayweather's pros in his victories, or his cons? Are you in awe of Pacquiao's KO streak, or do you question whether they're handpicked opponents?
Out of Mayweather's last four victories- I'd say Mosley was his best one. People were actually giving Mosley a decent chance to beat him considering his victory. Some people saw that Mosley would be affected by the layoff, but you can't deny that he was being pegged as Mayweather's downfall. Another thing, the fight gave Mayweather haters something to salivate over in the second round, where the world stood up as Mayweather was vulnerable as anyone could ever be after taking on one of Mosley's best punches and wobbling from it. He showed he had heart, adaptability, speed was still there, and composure all throughout the fight. The fact is, if anyone gave Mosley a good shot at beating Mayweather, then credit should be given where credit is due. If you never saw Mosley as a legitimate opponent, then give Mayweather some credit...it was still impressive against a 147 pounder.
Out of Pacquiao's last four victories- I'm not sure which one was the most impressive. I guess it'd be easy to say Margarito since we're still high on that brutality. Do you pick the beating of 12 rounds over Margarito? The clear victory of Pac over Clottey (Clottey had never been clearly beat before)? Stopping Cotto in the twelfth? Ricky Hatton's one punch knockout? Too many to choose from, but considering what they were considered at the time, the fight, and the result...I don't know. Actually, I have my opinion, but I'd rather not say.
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Are you serious do you know how important winning is to confidence?Originally posted by Reach;9619155[SIZE="4"]"coming off a win" doesnt mean anything,[/SIZE] doesnt change anything, there are a zillion factors more relevant than thatComment
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I was asking a rhetorical question. Nobody outside of Paulie fanboys picked him to win. The moneyline odds favoured Hatton to win.Comment
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Of course, Hatton was the favourite. Everyone knew that, but being the favourite to win doesn't mean the win isn't worthy of recognition.Comment
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