So who is the best 154 pounder out there?

[dj Ramos]

maidana has a chance if he can crack khan's china.

i don't think he'll have a chance though.

khan is gonna move and jab.

he's not gonna be a dumbass like victor.

victor could have won that fight easily.......

yeah man victor totally blew that fight away he had it perfectly set up, he wanted to be a badboy and entertain the crowd and wanted to slug with maidana.....he never realized...you just dont slug with maidana until after the fight.

im sure maidana will have a chance to hit khan no doubt about that. I dont think khan will drop like a fly like everyone makes it seem. The problem is you just dont know Khan might make 1 mistake and Maidana will take advantage. just like when maidana fight dropped victor when he was getting up. Victor stood there with an open guard and down victor went.

i think khan might take a few shots from Maidana but he wont resist many like ortiz did

[Left Hook Tua]

yeah man victor totally blew that fight away he had it perfectly set up, he wanted to be a badboy and entertain the crowd and wanted to slug with maidana.....he never realized...you just dont slug with maidana until after the fight.

im sure maidana will have a chance to hit khan no doubt about that. I dont think khan will drop like a fly like everyone makes it seem. The problem is you just dont know Khan might make 1 mistake and Maidana will take advantage. just like when maidana fight dropped victor when he was getting up. Victor stood there with an open guard and down victor went.

i think khan might take a few shots from Maidana but he wont resist many like ortiz did

people talk crap about victor but it's understandable to me.

1. he's young

2. first title fight right?

3. fighting at staples center his hometown

4. a lot of his friends and family were there

5. he was being showcased on hbo

6. he got happy with the 1st kd of maidana

understandable for me. these things happen. he's still a good young prospect.

[DR.ORGYY]

pac,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[frankenfrank]

the 2 guys fighting at 158 this saturday.

+1

But since Martinez may no longer be able to make 154 then it must be considered Paul Williams whom just may be still also the "best *" 147 lber in the world.

The #2 is probably James Kirkland (imagine Pacquiao vs. Kirkland :yep



* 'best' was meant on h2h meaning , not p4p.

[Walt Liquor]

Despite winning the WBC title at a catchweight, I think Manny might still be considered the best in the division...

Pacquiao WBC - Champ

Cotto WBA - Champ

K-9 Bundradge - IBF Champ

Dzinziruk - WBO Champ

i woul rank those 4:

dzindurek
pac
brundage
cotto


but I would put el perro just below dzindurek and sergio and pwill at 1 and 1a

[Left Hook Tua]

+1

But since Martinez may no longer be able to make 154 then it must be considered Paul Williams whom just may be still also the "best *" 147 lber in the world.

The #2 is probably James Kirkland (imagine Pacquiao vs. Kirkland :yep



* 'best' was meant on h2h meaning , not p4p.

if angulo didn't have his issues......

i wouldn't mind seeing pac-angulo at 154.

this way he defends that 154 belt once and at no catchweight.

i think angulo-pac would be a cracking fight.

the fruitcake clegg joked that roach would spend months creating a gameplan for pac and manny will just go toe to toe anyway.

[dj Ramos]

people talk crap about victor but it's understandable to me.

1. he's young

2. first title fight right?

3. fighting at staples center his hometown

4. a lot of his friends and family were there

5. he was being showcased on hbo

6. he got happy with the 1st kd of maidana

understandable for me. these things happen. he's still a good young prospect.

yeah i can see why he messed up, he got overexcited, the crowd got to him. A lot of people talk really negatively of Victor cuz of the Maidana loss but TBH Victor could possibly be the best 140lber.

The kid has nasty nasty power and speed and is young he will just keep improving. His defence just needs some touches and confidence back. Whenever he gets pressured he seems to slow down and get a little fear in him until he really hurts his opponent.

I think a couple more fights and Ortiz can take out Khan, Maidana, Alexander and Bradley. Its only a matter of time before everyone is back on his nuts again.

[Walt Liquor]

if angulo didn't have his issues......

i wouldn't mind seeing pac-angulo at 154.

this way he defends that 154 belt once and at no catchweight.

i think angulo-pac would be a cracking fight.

the fruitcake clegg joked that roach would spend months creating a gameplan for pac and manny will just go toe to toe anyway.

That would prob be the fight when pac's balls finally catch up with him if he decided to toe to toe with el perro.

Who you got in PAC/dzinzurek?

[Flawless*]

Paul Williams

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[frankenfrank]

if angulo didn't have his issues......

i wouldn't mind seeing pac-angulo at 154.

this way he defends that 154 belt once and at no catchweight.

i think angulo-pac would be a cracking fight.

the fruitcake clegg joked that roach would spend months creating a gameplan for pac and manny will just go toe to toe anyway.

Manny didn't go toe to toe with Margachito so why would he go with Angulo.
Anyway it is neither Angulo nor Pacquiao as Angulo lost to Cintron , although a decision does not count as a stoppage .
Pacquiao will never get near Paul Williams at neither 147 nor 154 , nor a catchweight in between.