Do you think Paul Williams could still make 147???

[Left Hook Tua]

Well me personally...I don't think so. As for Glen, thats all good, but as a boxing fan why would I want to see Paul take that kind of risk? Why would anyone? Just do it at 54, I couldn't care less if both Mayweather or Pacquiao lost to Paul or Martinez, just do it at 54, sick of all the catchweight bullcrap.

i don't give a **** if it's 147 or 154. i think it'll be a good fight.

you're the one crying how unfair it will be if it's at 147.

yet it's fair at 154 right?

give me a break.

if floyd fought pwill at 147 i wouldn't complain. i think you're just trying to make something out of nothing.

boohoo pac-pwill at 147 is so unfair for the 6'4 giant. lmfao

yet a guy who comes in at 145-150 , it's fair to fight a 6'4 guy at 154.

lame.

in the end if pwill thinks he can make 147 , let him try. he's gonna get a big fight and big money.

[paulf]

how will williams-martinez be like pacquiao-williams?

Martinez used the ring when he needed to and did so well against Paul because he has fast hands and a good boxing IQ. He figured out what would land as the fight went on. If he hadn't gassed out he would have won.

Pacquiao will do all those things only better, aside from gas out. He'll use his feet to get in and out faster, he's figure out his openings the way Sergio did but sooner (Sergio didnt figure out his best punch until Rd 9), and he'll throw/land way more punches.

No way Williams lasts 12 at 147.

[Left Hook Tua]

He can still make 147. He has no reason to lie about it and he was making 147 easily.

he was 152 for cintron a few months ago.

it might be hard but if he thinks he can make 147 , go for it.

it's big money.

[Doctor_Tenma]

i don't give a **** if it's 147 or 154. i think it'll be a good fight.

you're the one crying how unfair it will be if it's at 147.

yet it's fair at 154 right?

give me a break.

if floyd fought pwill at 147 i wouldn't complain. i think you're just trying to make something out of nothing.

boohoo pac-pwill at 147 is so unfair for the 6'4 giant. lmfao

yet a guy who comes in at 145-150 , it's fair to fight a 6'4 guy at 154.

lame.

in the end if pwill thinks he can make 147 , let him try. he's gonna get a big fight and big money.

No, I said personally I don't think Paul can be a healthy 147 pounder. And in the past I've said I wanted Mayweather to fight Paul Williams at 154 for the same reasons. So don't turn into all these other Pacquiao fans who get easily offended over dumb shit now Tua.

[Left Hook Tua]

Martinez used the ring when he needed to and did so well against Paul because he has fast hands and a good boxing IQ. He figured out what would land as the fight went on. If he hadn't gassed out he would have won.

Pacquiao will do all those things only better, aside from gas out. He'll use his feet to get in and out faster, he's figure out his openings the way Sergio did but sooner (Sergio didnt figure out his best punch until Rd 9), and he'll throw/land way more punches.

No way Williams lasts 12 at 147.

only problem is pacquiao doesn't really fight like sergio.

he can in spurts but he doesn't really do it. it's not in his nature.

another thing is sergio has like a half of foot on pacquiao and longer reach as well.

closer comparison would be williams-quintana.

it could be like the 1st one or it could be like the 2nd where pac gets ktfo.

[Boxing Scene]

he was 152 for cintron a few months ago.

it might be hard but if he thinks he can make 147 , go for it.

it's big money.

I agree, I don't know why people even ask the question. He's said he can do it over and over and if he signs the contract he'll make the weight.

[Left Hook Tua]

No, I said personally I don't think Paul can be a healthy 147 pounder. And in the past I've said I wanted Mayweather to fight Paul Williams at 154 for the same reasons. So don't turn into all these other Pacquiao fans who get easily offended over dumb shit now Tua.

i don't get easily offended.

i don't agree with you. i think you're wrong.

now it could be that pwill can't make 147. wouldn't blame him if he couldn't.

but i don't think pacquiao fighting pwill at 147 is some big advantage for pacquiao like you make it out to be.

[Doctor_Tenma]

i don't get easily offended.

i don't agree with you. i think you're wrong.

now it could be that pwill can't make 147. wouldn't blame him if he couldn't.

but i don't think pacquiao fighting pwill at 147 is some big advantage for pacquiao like you make it out to be.

Then we'll agree to disagree. I gave Pacquiao credit for beating the much bigger Margarito, although he easily sliced through him. I think it's time he challenges himself, and again...I don't see Paul at 47 presenting much of a challenge. Just my opinion.

[Left Hook Tua]

I agree, I don't know why people even ask the question. He's said he can do it over and over and if he signs the contract he'll make the weight.

ever since delahoya , everyone makes this big deal about going down a division. fact is delahoya didn't even go down a whole division. the guy went down 3 lbs. he was fighting at 150 catchweights before that. plus he was old and past it and on top of that he did some ****** new kangaroo diet thing.

fact is a lot of people go down in division.

some succeed , some don't.

these are pro athletes that have been cutting weight since they were teenagers fighting in the amateurs.

they know what they're doing.

sometimes they screw it up but usually they can get in decent enough shape.

[Left Hook Tua]

Then we'll agree to disagree. I gave Pacquiao credit for beating the much bigger Margarito, although he easily sliced through him. I think it's time he challenges himself, and again...I don't see Paul at 47 presenting much of a challenge. Just my opinion.

i think clottey and margarito were challenges.

and if you don't think they were , you must think cotto was.

that was barely a year ago.


just because he beat them easily doesn't mean they were challenges.

he was just better and won.

i find it funny when floyd fans talk that crap because floyd has been in the same situation.

people discredit hatton , judah , etc. because they weren't "challenges"

fact is hatton and judah were challenges. they were good fighters. just because floyd beat them easily doesn't mean they weren't challenges or good , solid wins. (yeah he had some problems early on with judah but in the end he beat him easily)