My take on Pacquiao vs Mayweather

[The Gambler1981]

I have never questioned that. If you have read my initial posting on the first page...

Floyd is an exceptional and superlative "boxer" while Pacquiao is a superlative "fighter".

That is why this has to happen.

That is part of the intrigue for sure.

[fabie]

That is part of the intrigue for sure.

Indeed.

That is why I am intrigued myself between my mind and sentiments. Again, my mind tells me that Mayweather is a superior boxer whereas Pacquiao had the passion, fuel and the guns to overcome Mayweather's edge.

The fight itself can exceed beyond my wildest speculations....

[The Gambler1981]

Indeed.

That is why I am intrigued myself between my mind and sentiments. Again, my mind tells me that Mayweather is a superior boxer whereas Pacquiao had the passion, fuel and the guns to overcome Mayweather's edge.

The fight itself can exceed beyond my wildest speculations....

Yes and what I am saying is by no means the be all and end of on the fight but that issue of range is to me what it boils down to considering both are greats.

There is little chance of it not being a great fight because there is no way Manny doesn't force Floyd to fight. Floyd forced to fight is a dangerous man but Manny is also.

[maguirre]

I hear ya, and that's a fair assessment. And again, this fight has to happen because we all put too much thoughts behind it. Analysis and hype.

In no way I'm comparing Margs to Floyd, or vise versa. Far from it. Both have completely different sets of skills. But it's hard to measure what game plan would Floyd devise to win this fight. Pac to me has evolved into a complete boxer. What Floyd can do, he can do, too.

It will be a waiting game in the first round, both sizing each other up. Floyd can land his punches as accurately as expected, but the question is will they be powerful enough to KO Pac? I don't think so as Floyd has a long history of winning by UD and all of those opponents will not compare to a Pacquiao who is in his prime right now.

In comparison, once Pac begins to unleash those combinations of his, it's either the start of a Mayweather deterioration in terms of just covering up ala Clottey or Margarito wherein he has no time to counter punch, or the start of Pacquiao going all the way for the kill.

[fabie]

In no way I'm comparing Margs to Floyd, or vise versa. Far from it. Both have completely different sets of skills. But it's hard to measure what game plan would Floyd devise to win this fight. Pac to me has evolved into a complete boxer. What Floyd can do, he can do, too.

It will be a waiting game in the first round, both sizing each other up. Floyd can land his punches as accurately as expected, but the question is will they be powerful enough to KO Pac? I don't think so as Floyd has a long history of winning by UD and all of those opponents will not compare to a Pacquiao who is in his prime right now.

In comparison, once Pac landed those combinations of his, it's either the start of Mayweather's deterioration in terms of just covering up ala Clottey or Margarito, no time to counter punch, or the start of Pacquiao going all the way for the kill.

Mayweather doesn't need to KO Pac to win since it's really never his forté to knock somebody out though he CAN. He is a "pot shotter" who is very accurate and this could deter a rampaging Pacquiao.

But again, if you've been reading my postings, I can see Pacquiao really gaining some momentum here as he is becoming a "complete" fighter now as you put it.

There's so many ways to look at this fight but I am going with the safer and common knowledge approach.

• MAYWEATHER EDGING PACQUIAO FOR A UD/SPLIT DECISION or he gets KO'ed in the early rounds.

A second scenario is:

• Pacquiao winning a UD/SPLIT decision if Mayweather would ever be so elusive to box and maintain distance and clinching.

This is more like ALI vs FRAZIER to me again. (goosebumps)

[maguirre]

Mayweather doesn't need to KO Pac to win since it's really never his forté to knock somebody out though he CAN. He is a "pot shotter" who is very accurate and this could deter a rampaging Pacquiao.

But again, if you've been reading my postings, I can see Pacquiao really gaining some momentum here as he is becoming a "complete" fighter now as you put it.

There's so many ways to look at this fight but I am going with the safer and common knowledge approach.

• MAYWEATHER EDGING PACQUIAO FOR A UD/SPLIT DECISION or he gets KO'ed in the early rounds.

A second scenario is:

• Pacquiao winning a UD/SPLIT decision if Mayweather would ever be so elusive to box and maintain distance and clinching.

This is more like ALI vs FRAZIER to me again. (goosebumps)

To me, at this point in Pac's career Mayweather won't have the power to control this fight. It will be Pac controlling this fight most of the rounds.

I would have taken the same stance as you have eloquently put here prior to the Marg/Pac fight. After that fight (Pac/Marg), it will be Pac's game in this fight with Floyd.

We shall see the result and I hope it gets made earlier than agreed.

[fabie]

To me, at this point in Pac's career Mayweather won't have the power to control this fight. It will be Pac controlling this fight most of the rounds.

I would have taken the same stance as you have eloquently put here prior to the Marg/Pac fight. After that fight (Pac/Marg), it will be Pac's game in this fight with Floyd.

We shall see the result and I hope it gets made earlier than agreed.

Ditto.

Deep in my heart I am rooting for Pacquiao and hoping he can crash the gates and just unleash his combinations. While Mayweather still his usual flair of the elusive, efficient and the defensive but effective boxer.

It's the ultimate of styles that I want to see.

This is akin to CHESS wherein the Grandmaster of defense such as ALEKHINE, TAL and KARPOV playing against the gambiteering Grandmasters such as KERES, FISCHER and KASPAROV.

This to me, is within that magnitude!

[fabie]

Good post, interesting observation. The biggest test for Mayweather is getting through the early rounds, Mayweather had some trouble with the hand speed and south paw stance of Judah but adjusted fairly quickly, since Pac has very quick hands and more power it could be dangerous for Mayweather. I lean towards a decision for Mayweather but would also not be surprised if he gets stopped, most likely TKO, imagine how crazy it would be when we witness the first legit time (yes he has been knocked down before but wasn't hurt(Judah) and the other time was because he hurt his hand) he gets knocked down - I can only imagine the atmosphere in the crowd.

Yep.....and also against Mosley.

If anyone, Mayweather is great in adjusting. THus Pacquiao's real chance is to capitalize on that and just let it rip while making sure he has enough STAMINA if in case he doesn't knock him out.

Then it becomes a BOXING match till the 12th.

[Pacquiao'd]

To me, at this point in Pac's career Mayweather won't have the power to control this fight. It will be Pac controlling this fight most of the rounds.

I would have taken the same stance as you have eloquently put here prior to the Marg/Pac fight. After that fight (Pac/Marg), it will be Pac's game in this fight with Floyd.

We shall see the result and I hope it gets made earlier than agreed.

floyd has more than enough power to control pac. go rewatch may/mos

[fabie]

floyd has more than enough power to control pac. go rewatch may/mos

PHYSICAL STRENGTH has never been the main thing that Mayweather has relied on but on his STRATEGY and DEFENSE. Though I won't say he can't. He definitely does and almost KOed Mosley if he just pressed on him further.