No One Pre-Tyson Would Stand a Chance Against a Klitschko

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Frazier? Frazier would have been KO'd by Wlad without wlad even having to use his right hand. Frazier's pressure? First of all his shots wouldnt hurt as much, second of all his output...what, throwing half of the punches as Vitali throws? Find me any round, any round, seriously find me one round of frazier vs. Ali, and of their 3 fights, one round where he threw more than Vitali did against Arreola in any given round. The worst round against Arreola against Fraziers best against Ali, just find me one. Seriously, ill be waiting.

Wow, it doesnt take boxrec to know Shavers was a bum. The dude fought in clubs in Ohio and Pennsylvania the majority of his career, he lost every meaningful fight but one against a washed up Norton, never won anything of meaning and lost in his prime to fighters with losing records.

And is someone on here really going tot ry to say since Vitali got hurt against Byrd he lost to people below anyone. Only person who ever actually beat Vitali was Lewis (arguably) and Lewis would do the same thing to anyone pretyson.

Sorry if the truth hurts, but Vitali isn't as good as you think. His height and reach advantage have a lot to do with his success, not to mention all the bums he's faced to make him look good. If Vitali throws more punches than Frazier, that's because he doesn't throw a lot of them with a lot behind it. Frazier threw haymakers and that's what causes the pressure I'm talking about. Frazier would have a hard time landing, but his relentless pressure would win him the rounds. Vitali is not fast enough to land on Frazier like Ali did because Frazier is a non stop bobbing and weaving defensive fighter. Frazier wins all day long against either brother.

[cupocity303]

Sorry if the truth hurts, but Vitali isn't as good as you think. His height and reach advantage have a lot to do with his success, not to mention all the bums he's faced to make him look good. If Vitali throws more punches than Frazier, that's because he doesn't throw a lot of them with a lot behind it. Frazier threw haymakers and that's what causes the pressure I'm talking about. Frazier would have a hard time landing, but his relentless pressure would win him the rounds. Vitali is not fast enough to land on Frazier like Ali did because Frazier is a non stop bobbing and weaving defensive fighter. Frazier wins all day long against either brother.

Frazier couldn't even deal with a big man like Foreman, who doesn't even take full advantage of his height and reach. He is a small Cruiserweight compared to Wlad or Vitali.

Either guy knocks him out cold, sorry to burst your bubble. I know some of you guys are big on the historically great heavyweights of the past, but they're physically outmatched against 6'6 250lb Heavyweights with very good boxing skills.

[Sweet Jesus]

Tyson knocks both out in one night.

[cupocity303]

Tyson knocks both out in one night.

Or gets outboxed worse than he did against Buster Douglas.

You just don't know, considering that Tyson has never fought 6'6-6'7 Heavyweights with exceptional Big Man boxing skills in his prime. Sure he was the most active up and coming heavyweights, reeling off over 20 wins withing a year, but those were against bums and second rate jobbers. Larry Holmes was out of shape and past his prime and the only great win on his resume (which I give him credit for) beating Michael Spinks, and that's a former LIght-Heavyweight.

Now sure, Wlad and Vitali also haven't seen someone like Tyson, with his head movement and inside presence but considering that Tyson like Wlad also lost to lesser man, it's a mute point.

I'll give the edge to either Klitschko to box his socks off and take his heart and the bully in him. Tyson loves to beat up people, but he doesn't love to fight, when it isn't going his way, he folds.

[Sweet Jesus]

Or gets outboxed worse than he did against Buster Douglas.

You just don't know, considering that Tyson has never fought 6'6-6'7 Heavyweights with exceptional Big Man boxing skills in his prime. Sure he was the most active up and coming heavyweights, reeling off over 20 wins withing a year, but those were against bums and second rate jobbers. Larry Holmes was out of shape and past his prime and the only great win on his resume (which I give him credit for) beating Michael Spinks, and that's a former LIght-Heavyweight.

Now sure, Wlad and Vitali also haven't seen someone like Tyson, with his head movement and inside presence but considering that Tyson like Wlad also lost to lesser man, it's a mute point.

I'll give the edge to either Klitschko to box his socks off and take his heart and the bully in him. Tyson loves to beat up people, but he doesn't love to fight, when it isn't going his way, he folds.

The day I see a Klitschko fight is the day I retire from this forum.

[cupocity303]

The day I see a Klitschko fight is the day I retire from this forum.

Well considering this statement and considering your avatar picture, your non objective analysis of both Klitschko's getting Ko'd by Tyson in one night has been excluded from being taken serious.

So I guess that clears it up.

[SNVDoublePunch!]

Somehow though, our modern ways do not make either Klitschko a good inside fighter. They do not give Wlad ATG stamina or an ATG chin. They do not give Vitali ATG skin nor did they stop him from getting injuries, including one in a fight where his opponent was an average-sized old time heavyweight. Your thread is bull****. The Klitschkos are just big guys with talent and dedication. That's not to say that they are definitively not great fighters, but only that they are not out of any ATG heavy's leagues by any means.

[Sweet Jesus]

Well considering this statement and considering your avatar picture, your non objective analysis of both Klitschko's getting Ko'd by Tyson in one night has been excluded from being taken serious.

So I guess that clears it up.

I was born in the Ukraine. My analysis is completely unbiased, Vlad.

[cupocity303]

I was born in the Ukraine. My analysis is completely unbiased, Vlad.

And I was born in Brooklyn, Ny.

So my analysis >>> your analysis.

ROFL.

[Sweet Jesus]

And I was born in Brooklyn, Ny.

So my analysis >>> your analysis.

ROFL.

No you are just a self-hating white man that can't stand the face he sees in the mirror.