Its just a fact. Im sick of hearing how bad Jack Johnson would beat Vitali or nonsense like that. We have the video, Jack Johnson was a terrible boxer, absolutely horrible, his fights were wrestling matches. Look, when you look at sports greatest athletes of the 20th century you see athletes like Jesse Owens, Make Spitz etc....sure these guys were greats, great athletes, great accomplishments, that doesnt change the fact that if they were around today with their times they wouldnt even make many college teams. They wouldnt even be top 100 in the U.S. today in their events let alone the world, let alone for 100 years. Klitschko's are too big, too strong and too smart. They have the benefit from studying the past, seeing what worked, what didnt, and using science to determine stronger punches, miliseconds to get ones guard back up and things such as that. So I am not saying they are "Greater" than Joe Louis, Marciano, or Ali, but they would probably kill both in the ring. And that goes across the board in sports, just look at NBA guys like George Mican, watch him play, dude wouldnt make a lot of high school teams today. I see football lists with Red Grange and stuff, you want to call them great, go ahead, but they couldnt compete today and neither could these dudes.
No One Pre-Tyson Would Stand a Chance Against a Klitschko
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David Haye is a coward for calling out The Klitschkos for the past 3 years and never having the balls to get in the ring against either of them. Klitschkos sell 60,000 plus seats in Germany, and now David "The Fraud" Haye doesn't want to fight him in Germany but instead in Hayes backyard where he can't sell **** probably like 15,000-20,000 tickets Haye sells. David Haye is a joke. -
Ali, Frazier, Holmes, Foreman, Lennox, Shavers, Norton, etc. all beat the Klitschkos (and I like the guys)... should I mention Corey Sanders and Lamon Brewster?Comment
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Wait, when was Lennox? Oh yeah, after tyson.
Shavers? Shavers beats a Klitschko? You should be banned for trolling because of that. Shavers lost in his prime to Bob Stallings, thats right, 17% KO% Bob Stallings, losing record club fighter Bob Stallings knocked Shavers down for 9 and won a UD over him. Shavers beating a klitschko...quit trolling. For saying that I know you can't be reasoned with because anyone who thinks earnie shavers would stand a chance against a Klitschko is just a troll.Comment
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Both of the brothers picked up losses to fighters beneath Foreman, Ali, Norton, Holmes, Liston and Fraiser in their primes.
To say they wouldn't stand a chance against them is absurd when there is a strong argument to support the Klitscho brothers losing to those fighters listed.Comment
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Yep, Johnson would *** up the Klits.Its just a fact. Im sick of hearing how bad Jack Johnson would beat Vitali or nonsense like that. We have the video, Jack Johnson was a terrible boxer, absolutely horrible, his fights were wrestling matches. Look, when you look at sports greatest athletes of the 20th century you see athletes like Jesse Owens, Make Spitz etc....sure these guys were greats, great athletes, great accomplishments, that doesnt change the fact that if they were around today with their times they wouldnt even make many college teams. They wouldnt even be top 100 in the U.S. today in their events let alone the world, let alone for 100 years. Klitschko's are too big, too strong and too smart. They have the benefit from studying the past, seeing what worked, what didnt, and using science to determine stronger punches, miliseconds to get ones guard back up and things such as that. So I am not saying they are "Greater" than Joe Louis, Marciano, or Ali, but they would probably kill both in the ring. And that goes across the board in sports, just look at NBA guys like George Mican, watch him play, dude wouldnt make a lot of high school teams today. I see football lists with Red Grange and stuff, you want to call them great, go ahead, but they couldnt compete today and neither could these dudes.
Those big slow Russians would piss their big Russian pants with Ali stinging the ever-loving ***** outa them for 15 rounds.
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Wow you do know how to use Boxrec! You missed the obvious that Ernie could punch and punch well. Wlad does not have the greatest beard. If I was trolling I might have mentioned Tex Cobb.Comment
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The Klitschko's, I seriously doubt, would beat an extremely aggressive pressure fighter like Joe Frazier. He had too much stamina, power, and relentless pressure for either of the two. They are big guys and because of that, could not equal Fraziers output. Sure they could jab, move away, and hold him off some, but they would lose round after round against someone like that. Ali would also easily beat these guys. He was too fast and coordinated. He'd pop them all night long and win an easy decision. He'd probably stop Wlad in the late rounds. I do give them a good chance against everyone else pre Tyson.Comment
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Frazier? Frazier would have been KO'd by Wlad without wlad even having to use his right hand. Frazier's pressure? First of all his shots wouldnt hurt as much, second of all his output...what, throwing half of the punches as Vitali throws? Find me any round, any round, seriously find me one round of frazier vs. Ali, and of their 3 fights, one round where he threw more than Vitali did against Arreola in any given round. The worst round against Arreola against Fraziers best against Ali, just find me one. Seriously, ill be waiting.The Klitschko's, I seriously doubt, would beat an extremely aggressive pressure fighter like Joe Frazier. He had too much stamina, power, and relentless pressure for either of the two. They are big guys and because of that, could not equal Fraziers output. Sure they could jab, move away, and hold him off some, but they would lose round after round against someone like that. Ali would also easily beat these guys. He was too fast and coordinated. He'd pop them all night long and win an easy decision. He'd probably stop Wlad in the late rounds. I do give them a good chance against everyone else pre Tyson.
Wow, it doesnt take boxrec to know Shavers was a bum. The dude fought in clubs in Ohio and Pennsylvania the majority of his career, he lost every meaningful fight but one against a washed up Norton, never won anything of meaning and lost in his prime to fighters with losing records.
And is someone on here really going tot ry to say since Vitali got hurt against Byrd he lost to people below anyone. Only person who ever actually beat Vitali was Lewis (arguably) and Lewis would do the same thing to anyone pretyson.Comment
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