Comments Thread For: Roach: I Want Pacquiao-Marquez, But at 147-Pounds

[Baba Konuwa]

I wonder if Pacquiao will get the same criticism from writers and fans for fighting Marques @ 147 as Mayweather got for fighting him at a catch weight of 144. Remember the hate he got for fighting a light weight and bringing him up to welterweight.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I wonder if Pacquiao will get the same criticism from writers and fans for fighting Marques @ 147 as Mayweather got for fighting him at a catch weight of 144. Remember the hate he got for fighting a light weight and bringing him up to welterweight.

Did you give Floyd a pass for Marquez at 147, or did you criticize him?

[ADozenArrows]

If the pressure is on by the fans to make this fight at 140, it will be made at 140.

Flooding the chat with 140 OR WHO CARES by us fans will have Roach, Arum, and Pacquiao succomb to a fight at 140.

No one wants to see Marquez-Pacquiao at 147.

If that's their terms than Marquez-Morales at 135 should happen.

[War Dinamita]

They should fight at Marquez' request at a catchweight of 143 or 144.

http://www.************.com/2010/10/...of-143-or-144/

No, thanks.

JMM is not good at anything over 135.

The fight should be a catch weight fight at 136-137 for JMM to even have a slim chance of being competitive.

[Baba Konuwa]

Did you give Floyd a pass for Marquez at 147, or did you criticize him?

My point is this, Floyd fought Marquez who was the #2 lb for lb fighter at the time as a tune up bout at a catch weight of 144. It was not a matter of a size dis advantage, it was a major dis advantage in skill between them on fight night. I'm not criticizing Roach for wanting that fight at 147, I just expect the same criticism to fall on them for doing what Mayweather did being that he took criticism for it. But I don't think Pacquiao will beat Marquez in the same fashion as Mayweather at 147. Mayweather just made Marquez look like ****, it wasn't the weight.

[adp023]

Wow! Roach already talking about Marquez? At 147?
According to all Pac fans, JMM wasn't even effective
at 147 against Floyd because of size and now Roach
wants Manny to fight him at WW? Wonder if Pac
fans will say it is a mismatch like they did with Floyd.
Why would Roach want Marquez at 147, when he knows
that is not Marquez best weight? Looks like they want
the sure and easy win. How could I possible be making
this stuff up.

Guys...it's called negotiating through the media!! If Roach starts with 144, you think JMM won't try and make it 140???? Duh!!! Start at 147....and agree at 144! But knowing that JMM is a stubborn-ass Mexican, he'll automatically agree to 147 LOL

[Vasyl’s dad]

My point is this, Floyd fought Marquez who was the #2 lb for lb fighter at the time as a tune up bout at a catch weight of 144. It was not a matter of a size dis advantage, it was a major dis advantage in skill between them on fight night. I'm not criticizing Roach for wanting that fight at 147, I just expect the same criticism to fall on them for doing what Mayweather did being that he took criticism for it. But I don't think Pacquiao will beat Marquez in the same fashion as Mayweather at 147. Mayweather just made Marquez look like ****, it wasn't the weight.

I'm not asking what your point is,

I asked,

did you or did you not criticize Mayweather when he fought Marquez at welterweight?


Going by your response to my initial question, refusing to answer and coming with something completely irrelevant to what I asked,

it appears as if you gave Floyd a pass.


If you and others who gave Floyd a pass for agreeing to fight Marquez at welterweight,


should really keep quiet about passes and criticisms.


It makes you look foolish.

[Pacquiao'd]

Guys...it's called negotiating through the media!! If Roach starts with 144, you think JMM won't try and make it 140???? Duh!!! Start at 147....and agree at 144! But knowing that JMM is a stubborn-ass Mexican, he'll automatically agree to 147 LOL

such ****** *******ed logic

[fightnight1]

Roach "STOP CHERRY PICKING". You need to come back down to earth and fight JMM @ 135 or 140 Or just shut the Hell up. Your fighter is the most protected fighter i have ever seen. Take the chance and fight at the real weight. Enough of this "CATCH WEIGHT" bull**** already.

[medi8r]

My point is this, Floyd fought Marquez who was the #2 lb for lb fighter at the time as a tune up bout at a catch weight of 144. It was not a matter of a size dis advantage, it was a major dis advantage in skill between them on fight night. I'm not criticizing Roach for wanting that fight at 147, I just expect the same criticism to fall on them for doing what Mayweather did being that he took criticism for it. But I don't think Pacquiao will beat Marquez in the same fashion as Mayweather at 147. Mayweather just made Marquez look like ****, it wasn't the weight.

How do you figure it wasn't the weight that diminished Marquez' skills. You realize Pac opted not to put on more weight this past weekend because it brought his skills and attributes down a notch right? When you put on more weight it will affect your skill set. More weight means less power, slower reflexes and makes you less nimble on your feet. Marquez showed all of these shortcomings in fighting PBF at the higher weight.