Wlad is the best HW by far

[BLOODSHED]

Dude, I like Lennox, Wlad, and Vitali for being thinking heavies that actually box. Two rare combos in the heavy division. When they were good they were all a treat to watch. Its just that Wlad and Vitali (whose getting there) arent that good anymore.

i'm giving him a chance and not being fair weather about it... he's only been with manny for a few fights and looked good against castillo and great against brewster for 4 rounds... i dont get people like you who write a guy off after 2 losses...

[BLOODSHED]

Im not going to call Wlad good from the era when he was given cupcakes in Germany. Thats not going to happen.

He still hasnt fought the best opposition since that night Sanders exposed him 4 years ago. And he hasnt looked good since.

What did I like about the Wlad that was being hand fed opponents, he put combos together. Was a thinking heavy. Good speed. Tremendous physical attributes, tall and in shape. But with the exception of his height, he hasnt shown what made him special recently to fighters that are mediocre at best.

OK you are fast heading to the unreasonable, anti klitschko hater side of the room.

Will you give Wlad any credit for anything? Say something positive about Wlad so we know you are objective.

I've said negative things about him.

[Torino]

Im not going to call Wlad good from the era when he was given cupcakes in Germany. Thats not going to happen.

He still hasnt fought the best opposition since that night Sanders exposed him 4 years ago. And he hasnt looked good since.

What did I like about the Wlad that was being hand fed opponents, he put combos together. Was a thinking heavy. Good speed. Tremendous physical attributes, tall and in shape. But with the exception of his height, he hasnt shown what made him special recently to fighters that are mediocre at best.

Be careful, you don't want to go out on a limb.

[guru]

Dude, I like Lennox, Wlad, and Vitali for being thinking heavies that actually box. Two rare combos in the heavy division. When they were good they were all a treat to watch. Its just that Wlad and Vitali (whose getting there) arent that good anymore.

thats fine, that's your opinion...i think wlad still has a chance to make some noise in the division and grab a belt.. it's not like the division is stacked with talent...

bruno, seldon, mccall and byrd all camce back from multiple bad losses to win world titles... if ruiz can comeback from a KO loss to tua and losses to 2 journeymen, to win the title 3 times and beat holy, rahman, fres, and golota... then i think wlad can still have some success...

[Leo Pradun]

I don't Know if Peter could actually connect a punch on Byrd, even today.

Byrd sux ass and has been getting gift desicions most of his career I cant wait for someone to knock his ass out..

[Bozo_no no]

You might as well be talking to Wlad's mother.

He hasn't looked good since beating McCline.

Beating Peter would be a good start, but his last few fights were meaningless. He got a split TD over Williamson in a fight where he looked very unsure of himself and was dropped, and agaisnt Castillo he was fighting a very small Heavyweight in his 8th fight in the division. Even at Cruiser Castillo had fought to a draw with a very weak fighter.

The point is, "Just wait and see" is different than the assinine title of this thread.

How's about you all wait to get yourselves all excited until something positive happens?

[Torino]

pre-sanders, wlad was facing the best that would fighing him... byrd, jeffesron, barrett, shufford, mcline... the only reason he ever fought sanders was becuase nobody wanted to fight him...

That's true. I remember that.

[leff]

vitali would own his little bro, even if vitali was 0-100 with all loses by KO vitali would knock out wlad because he is the older brother, and the little one has to take the beating always, its a rule

funny you should say that cause i allways beat my 2 year older brother when fighting and he is 6.1 and 280lbs

[Torino]

Byrd sux ass and has been getting gift desicions most of his career I cant wait for someone to knock his ass out..

I agree, I just don't think Peter is the guy to do it.

[RAESAAD]

Wlad is the biggest , goofiest , lankiest , unsteady , perpetrator in the HW division or is that Valuev?