Wlad is the best HW by far

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  • beez721
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    #111
    Originally posted by mnash_98
    Wlad was being hand-fed fighters in Germany and his promoter underestimated Corrie Sanders and he ended up getting exposed much in the same fashion and scenario of Cotto-Corley. People thought Corley and Sanders were game and in for pay days. Boy were they wrong.
    I disagree,,,he not only beat but dominated top 10 american fighters chris byrd,,,mcline,,,mercer,,and monte barret. he clearly underestimated corrie sanders and his awckward southpaw style that was his downfall. it was obvious the way he was loading up on everything and walking straight in showing no respect. he got caught in the process and hasnt been the same since. the pre sanders wlad would have boxed sam peter's ears off,,,but at this point in wlads career,,I have to pick peter by knockout. I think it goes pretty much the way the brewster fight went. thats on the assumption that peter has a good chin. its still a dangerous fight tho for peter

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      #112
      Originally posted by jabsRstiff
      I would much rather watch Wlad fight than Rahman & Ruiz.

      But....nobody blindly supports those two, deservedly so.

      If you guys took the "I just like watching him fight" stance....nobody could argue.
      But, you're still talking about lofty accomplishments coming his way, when it's been shown he has terrible flaws. Many of you have bought this "he was poisoned" B.S, to excuse his loss to Brewtser. That's a disgrace....something I only expect from children or dopey Tyson diehards.

      i like watching him fight, he beats the **** out of people, whats not to love about that??

      i would never say that wlad was "poisoned" when he lost to Brewster, that is hilarious.

      but ive also seen him fight enought times to know that something was wrong that night for whatever reason. he has gone longer and fought at just as fast a pace before so i am going to look at it as a total anomaly until he does it again.

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      • Moon
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        #113
        Originally posted by Nautilus
        I think he is by far the most talented, and his chin is good.
        This is a joke, right? "Talent" and "chin" are two words not normally reserved for Vlad discussions. Myself, I have two other words when talkin' bout Vlad, one is "Sanders" and the other is "sleep".

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        • Moon
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          #114
          Originally posted by beez721
          ... he clearly underestimated corrie sanders and his awckward southpaw style that was his downfall.
          His downfall was Sanders left hand on his face. Any heavy handed fighter that lands flush on Vlad is gonna' floor that boy. Sanders exposed the Ukranians chin and anybody else that can reach it will have success.

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          • Run
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            #115
            Originally posted by Hitman932
            i like watching him fight, he beats the **** out of people, whats not to love about that??

            i would never say that wlad was "poisoned" when he lost to Brewster, that is hilarious.

            but ive also seen him fight enought times to know that something was wrong that night for whatever reason. he has gone longer and fought at just as fast a pace before so i am going to look at it as a total anomaly until he does it again.
            Great reasoning. I would also like to add you are getting down to brass tacks here.

            Wlad is 40-3-(40) That knockout percentage is very impressive......and I laugh when people talk about "level of opposition". Arguably the best resume in the division IMO. Better than Ruiz.

            OH.....and better than Quitali. His fake older brother.



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              #116
              Originally posted by Munn
              His downfall was Sanders left hand on his face. Any heavy handed fighter that lands flush on Vlad is gonna' floor that boy. Sanders exposed the Ukranians chin and anybody else that can reach it will have success.
              WOW Great post!

              And why not classify them: Ukranians, Jamaicans, Americans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, all other ..cans...

              Looks like Don King is already getting through some idiots

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              • BLOODSHED
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                #117
                Better resume than Toney? Holyfiend (he isnt retired, yet).
                Originally posted by RunWithKnives
                Great reasoning. I would also like to add you are getting down to brass tacks here.

                Wlad is 40-3-(40) That knockout percentage is very impressive......and I laugh when people talk about "level of opposition". Arguably the best resume in the division IMO. Better than Ruiz.

                OH.....and better than Quitali. His fake older brother.

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                • Pno
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by GodzHand
                  If Wlad could have gotten LL in trouble like Vitali did, he definently would have had a better chance of finishing the job. I dont know if Wlad could take the punches that LL landed on Vitali though. Wlad, offensively, is on a higher level than Vitali, but I think that's the only advantage Wlad has over Vitali
                  as much as I'd like to agree with that... look at when Wlad fought Brewster. He should have easily won that fight and would have if he just threw in one or two more punches as Brewster was wobbling around before he got knocked down.

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                  • Pno
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Nautilus
                    This is not clear yet. I think we have to see Wlad-Peter to make the conclusion.

                    Wlad's defense is his weakest side, and I hope Stewart has worked on it.

                    Wlad with a (much) improved defense is what we need at the moment.
                    Stewart has worked on Wlad's defense from what I saw against Castillo. Wlad was actually moving bobbing and weaving, instead of keeping all of his body still but his head..

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                    • The Troll
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                      #120
                      Think Wlad was better off with Fritzy Sdunek. But if Wlad wins this fight in impressive fashion. I will change my opinion. I think the only reason he left Fritzy is because he is under contract to only train universum promoted fighters.
                      Last edited by The Troll; 08-19-2005, 06:36 AM.

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