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as far as I know you get a 10 count to continue fighting no matter where you fall. So I think that even if you fall out of the ring you still have to make it back in and up by 10 but I could be wrong does anybody remember when Rachman got knocked thru the ropes against I think it was O.Maskaev if so do you remember if he had to make it up and back in the ring by the 10ct?
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Well when you watch this fight look and see how long the ref actually counts when Nigel Benn is knocked out of the ring in round one. He would have been counted out by any other ref. Also observe how often the referee stops McClellan from landing punches on an obviously wobbled Benn. That's why I said if this fight took place in the U.S. it would have been over in one round with G-man the winner.Originally posted by Frank the TankBenn roughed him up, no doubt, but McLellan didn't do much complaining about it during the fight and there's been much worse incidents of foul play that have gone unpunished. I don't know what makes you think it would have ended in the 1st had the fight been elsewhere
Benn landed plenty of big, legitimate shots that were the more likely reason for the outcome of the fight and it's just excuse making to say otherwise.Comment
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Dude, just because it was a war doesn't mean he has to resort to this type of fighting. Hell, Benn was a good enough fighter to be able to fight fairly against Gerald but Benn clearly was intimidated by McClellan's punching power and the only way he could even things up was to foul. I didn't see Benn fight this way against Watson or Barkley or any fight before or after this fight. Explain to me when Gerald tried to foul Benn in this one.... Yeah, it pisses me off when someone talks **** about a fight they obviously haven't seen enough of. Explain the flying head butt by Nigel... would that kind of crap have taken place in the States, I think not. Benn minus the illegal tacktics would have lost this one early.Originally posted by pinkpanther
Yeah, he took some punishment in the Jackson fight but not to the extent of the Benn fight, Jackson was honorable warrior that didn't need to fall back on fouls unlike Benn. Being hit by a legal blows compared to constant rabbit punching is a major difference.Comment
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I'll concede that you may have a point with regards to the count and maybe the ref's interventions but not that the so-called illegal tactics of Benn changed the outcome of the fight. Do you honestly believe that the rabbit punches and clash of heads had more effect on McLellan than the several bombs that Benn landed on him?
Benn was tangled up in the ropes which is probably why he got extra time from the ref and it's certainly less scandalous than the long counts given to Douglas against Tyson or Ali against Cooper.
I'm going to have to watch it again now though, just to make sure.Last edited by Cletus Funk; 12-14-2004, 07:22 AM.Comment
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What about MAB smashing Hamed's face into the corner post or Tyson being allowed to continue after the 1st bite? Much worse than anything Benn did and you don't hear British fans saying Hamed would have won if it wasn't for Barrera's illegal tactics. He was just roughing up Hamed to intimidate him, same as Benn.Originally posted by FistoftheDallasStar
That's just naive saying it wouldn't/doesn't happen in the US.lmao.Last edited by Cletus Funk; 12-14-2004, 07:23 AM.Comment
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I don't feel happy about his condition but I did lose a lot of the sympathy that I had for him when I found out what an evil ****er he was.Originally posted by johnny swiftComment
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As for G-man against Hagler - come on please! Hagler would have destroyed him, there not fit to be mentioned in the same breath.Comment
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Maybe G-man didn't do much complaining because he was literally dying inside? Thats just a thought...I have read that the blood clot formed early on in the fight...this was one of the more courageous performances that you will ever see.Originally posted by Frank the TankBenn roughed him up, no doubt, but McLellan didn't do much complaining about it during the fight and there's been much worse incidents of foul play that have gone unpunished. I don't know what makes you think it would have ended in the 1st had the fight been elsewhere Benn landed plenty of big, legitimate shots that were the more likely reason for the outcome of the fight and it's just excuse making to say otherwise.
I love Gerald...but to pick him over Hagler....I can't do that-however I think I would take G-man against Hopkins....maybe.Comment
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Maybe but I thought he was fighting quite well though for most of the fight and he'd have won by 3 or 4 rounds if it had gone the distance, so I'm not sure about that.Originally posted by scapComment
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Like I said, one of the most courageous performances you will ever see, you don't think that he just all of s sudden formed a blood clot do you?...watching that fight over there is obviously something wrong with GM and it certainly was apparent far before the 10th...Comment
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