McClellan vs Hagler

[jabsRstiff]

Marvin Hagler was too complete a fighter to lose to Gerald McClellan.
Being a big puncher got you nowhere with Hagler...as you can see from his fights with Cyclone Hart, Mugabi, & Hearns.

McClellan wouldn't have much to fall back on, after his bombs fizzled.


On Benn-McClellan...
You can factor dehydration into Gerald's demise, as well.
He was notorious for drying out to make weight.

[Cletus Funk]

Like I said, one of the most courageous performances you will ever see, you don't think that he just all of s sudden formed a blood clot do you?...watching that fight over there is obviously something wrong with GM and it certainly was apparent far before the 10th...

Yeah, he starts blinking alot around the 7th or 8th if I remember right which is probably when it started. It was one of the bravest fights I've ever seen from both fighters. Benn was in a bad way too after that fight and was never the same fighter again.

[Cletus Funk]

Sorry to be a bit **** guys but I've just watched the fight again because you had me doubting my own memory. You guys really need to watch this fight again.

The count's not even close, Benn's up at 6 outside the ropes and back in the ring at 8(off my count, not the refs). The ref does mess about a bit when McLellan refuses to step back after he's called break. The ref also gives a pretty dubious kd in the 8th when Benn falls over after swinging wildly.

As for the rabbit punches, Benn only gets him with a couple of tap ones whilst they're clinching but does hit him 3 or 4 decent ones just before and after McLellan goes down for the 1st time late in the fight for which he gets warned. McLellan throws 2 or 3 of his own including 1 huge one as well as a couple of elbows.

The "flying headbut" is totally accidental. Benn tries to land a huge right hook and catches McLellan with the back of his head as he's falling down.

Jabs, I think you could be on to something with the dehydration. He was definitely struggling for breath from about 5 onwards, although why would he be struggling at the weight in his 1st fight up from middleweight?

[jayschre]

I am gonna watch the fight again in just a few min. so I will get back to ya after, I also agree the headbutt was totally an accident. The more I think back I remember Manny S. saying before that Gerald was around 170-75 lbs. walk around weight and that making 160 was awfully hard on him so he moved up, but even cutting weight for as long as he had been, that has to have lasting ramificationson a persons body as well as brain. I almost think that maybe years of cutting the weight had done enough damage and factored in with dehydration, plus all the power puches from Nigel just equaled tragedy. I have always felt that boxing as a whole should do more to keep guys from cutting so much weight, Joey Camach(sp.) was lucky he didn't get killed in his fight with A. Gatti cause jesus what did Gatti put on like 15-20 lbs. between the weigh-in and the fight, sooner or later something's got to find a way to curb that **** cause it aint right! I'll get back after watching the fight, peace

[GasPed]

Marvin Hagler was too complete a fighter to lose to Gerald McClellan.
Being a big puncher got you nowhere with Hagler...as you can see from his fights with Cyclone Hart, Mugabi, & Hearns.

McClellan wouldn't have much to fall back on, after his bombs fizzled.


On Benn-McClellan...
You can factor dehydration into Gerald's demise, as well.
He was notorious for drying out to make weight.

Hagler's chin was made of granite. He took everything Hearns had, and still kept coming. McClellan, same deal.

[Cletus Funk]

I am gonna watch the fight again in just a few min. so I will get back to ya after,

I'm gonna be offline for a couple days, so I'm not ducking your response

The fight's more or less totally clean between 2 and 9 and Benn's not even as dirty as I'd remebered it!! I'm glad you made me watch it again though, it's such a great fight.