If Tony beats Pac, will it damage his standing a top 5 ATG?

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LOL, you throw that in as kiddy NSB Stuff. Have you seen Gene Tunney fight??? We do know that Greb was blind in one eye when he beat Tunney while Tunney was undefeated. Greb is highly ranked BY ALL boxing historians, its common sense as 2 + 2.

I said it as one criteria, but we have seen who they did beat and what their overall impact and accomplishments are in the sport.

You are lost, fuck-face. I just said his resume and record are not in dispute.

So what is this pointless nonsense you are harping on about?

All of which I know, you show-off. Don't pretend to exercise your fake knowledge on me, cause I guarantee I have read more than you ever will.


I have seen Tunney fight and he is one of my all time favs. Tremendous scientific boxer.

I am simply implying that Greb's true greatness & potential may never be realised without actual fight footage. Dunce.

BTW, the only thing owned was your mom we you did her.

Shows what a classless prick you are. What does my mum have to do with this?


You low-life scumbag.


You got owned, son.

[HaglerSteelChin]

alexander the great (circa 320 bc) vs Prime Iraq ********** Guard (1992), who takes it?

ill go with Saddam via unanimous decision.

So that means a current #100 ranked tennis player is better than Rod Laver because he is serves faster and has a stronger backhand?

THat is very flawed reasoning, so you will regard a modern contender who never won a title higher than a past champion, is that you judge greatness?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

UD?


Iraq wins via WMD.

alexander the great aint even on saddam's level.

uday & qusay would box alexander the great's ears off.



Uday the rapist FTW.

[PEBBLES!]

So that means a current #100 ranked tennis player is better than Rod Laver because he is serves faster and has a stronger backhand?

THat is very flawed reasoning, so you will regard a modern contender who never won a title higher than a past champion, is that you judge greatness?

Is this HaglerGlassChin joker actually implying that Alexander The Great's army would stand a chance vs Saddam's modern weaponry?





What a fool.

[Blooper]

of course they are good points. its common sense. babe ruth DID NOT PLAY AGAINST black guys, latinos, & asians. He played in the dead ball era. You think babe ruth could make a major league team today with his obese physique?

You think jim thorpe or bart starr could compete in the nfl?

How about bill russell? How do you think bill russell, a 6 foot 8, 240 lb center would do against dwight howard or the laker frontline?

Ive seen footage of henry armstrong, looks like a rich man's version of david/juan diaz.


Its all about preserving history.

that's why sports like golf, swimming and track and field have the upper hand compared to sports you've mentioned in terms of historical comparison since results could be directly matched up against each other.

most golf courses stayed the same, olympic sized sized pools are still that and as far as i know, 10 sec from 50 yrs ago is still 10 sec today.

[joelab75]

Manny has won 7 division titles, fighter of the decade, 3x fighter of the year, 4 lineal champ. if any of you guys think he is not atleast a top 20 ATG's you probably a hater or jealous of what an Asian guy has done in boxing. if 7 division title was so easy why no one ever done it? and fighter of the decade was awarded once every 10 years. you have to make a case to discredit him. not the usual argument that he could not beat this old school boxer, williams would kill him or mayweather would school him bullsheet! boxing resume should be done in the boxing ring like Manny has been doing.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

So that means a current #100 ranked tennis player is better than Rod Laver because he is serves faster and has a stronger backhand?

THat is very flawed reasoning, so you will regard a modern contender who never won a title higher than a past champion, is that you judge greatness?

no,

that means prime roger federer, prime sampras, prime agassi would ****ing murk rod laver & his short short wearing greats of his days.

Every sport evolves. All the great players from every sport across the board, have come from recent times.

Yet, boxing always seems unaffected by this.

Usain Bolt would run laps around jesse owens. shaq & hakeem would destroy wilt & russell, payton manning & tom brady are much greater & much more advanced quarterbacks than say johnny unitas & bart starr.


Its called athletic evolution. Every sport has evolved, including boxing.

Rank accordingly.

[HaglerSteelChin]

You are lost, fuck-face. I just said his resume and record are not in dispute.

So what is this pointless nonsense you are harping on about?

All of which I know, you show-off. Don't pretend to exercise your fake knowledge on me, cause I guarantee I have read more than you ever will.


I have seen Tunney fight and he is one of my all time favs. Tremendous scientific boxer.

I am simply implying that Greb's true greatness & potential may never be realised without actual fight footage. Dunce.




Shows what a classless prick you are. What does my mum have to do with this?


You low-life scumbag.


You got owned, son.

LOL you still harping over the Red K over your ignorance on the Lopez fight. I never go into profanities or insults unless thrown at me, you threw the C word, that is not discussion but insults. To call me out for name calling, is like the pot calling the kettle black.

THere is nothing here about owning, put this up at any discussion board and see how the argument holds up?

That whole Harry Greb is overrated or we never saw his film was already beaten to a dead horse over in the history section, do a search function. People can respect opinions without inflamattory stuff.

I do apologize about the mum incident. If you like incess and doing role reversal with your mum that is your problem.

[danny711]

Compare it to world records...They keep getting broken because we get stronger, faster, smarter, better.

[Blooper]

no,

that means prime roger federer, prime sampras, prime agassi would ****ing murk rod laver & his short short wearing greats of his days.

Every sport evolves. All the great players from every sport across the board, have come from recent times.

Yet, boxing always seems unaffected by this.

Usain Bolt would run laps around jesse owens. shaq & hakeem would destroy wilt & russell, payton manning & tom brady are much greater & much more advanced quarterbacks than say johnny unitas & bart starr.


Its called athletic evolution. Every sport has evolved, including boxing.

Rank accordingly.

you make great points but ppl will still debate you on merits regardless of how obvious your case is.

only the bold part won't be disputed since by comparing times, you know for a fact that usain murks jesse.