If Tony beats Pac, will it damage his standing a top 5 ATG?

[BennyST]

Old fighters are over rated. Have you seen greb fight? Not saying Pacquiao is the greatest of all times, just that old (especially really old) fighters are way over rated. The guys of modern times could hang with anyone.

Uhh... heres an "impressive" sample.

Yes, of course they could.

Another genius.

[Blooper]

jack is top 5 atg baiter.

[Bastian Loc]

Nobody really has.

There is no footage of my knowledge of Greb official fights. However, there are footage of men he beat. And, Greb has one of the best resumes of all time. Maybe the greatest.

That footage is of a sparring, shouldn't really be taken serious.

Exactly so STFU about Harry fucking Greb already.

The guy is more of a myth than Roy Jones and Floyd Mayweather combined.

GTFO.

[Pudgemeister]

Yes, of course they could.

Another genius.

Haha. Look at that footage man. Is there anything there that says ATG to you?

[Bastian Loc]

Handspeed demonstration

[crillz]

Or will he fall out of the top 5 into the top 25 or maybe even 50.


Conversely, if Pac wins, will he surpass SRR as the greatest of all time for overcoming such a large and dangerous fighter as Margarito?

Vote and discuss.

he wont be the greatest fighter ever above Ray Robinson Jack, you bugging out

[jrosales13]

Right, no one has, so it's kind of weird when everyone brings these guys up and how they automatically have top 5 ATG status without ever being seen.

Imagine if they had black and white footage of Roy Jones or Manny Pac shadow boxing?

There is no footage of him but there are footage of the guy he beat.

And, dude had only one good eye.

To beat the guys he beat you know he had to be good.

He is a top 3 ATG in my book.

And, if you do more research you would see why. But, if you just lazy then yea you're right

[Bastian Loc]

Yes, of course they could.

Another genius.

Tell us more about the moon landing and the great depression while you're here as well Professor Doofus.

[Rick Grimes]

Emmnuel stwerad, Bert sugar, Roy jones , Brian kenny said he's top 5....

Bert Sugar and Brian Kenny said he's top 20 not top 5 stop with the BS.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4656584

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4656560

[HaglerSteelChin]

SRR started lost only once in first 100 fights and his notable wins, and beat like 10 hall of fame fighters. He never scored a draw against Agapitho Sanchez and almost get knocked out in Round 4 by a guy name Nedal Hussien and relied on a referee giving a long count than point deduction to save him. In 200 fights, he never was never knocked out, the only KO loss was due to heat exhaustation against Maxim a fight for the LHW title he was winning.


Henry Armstrong almost had held 4 titles out of 8 titles, in a era were there was one champ per divison, he also gave up more pounds to garcia than Pac will give up to Margs tomorrow.

Harry Greb beat 13 future hall of famers, while knocking guys out with a blind eye, also fighting almost every few weeks.

Sam Langford started out as low as WW and 5 feet 7 and beat Heavyweights, does that make him a god??? Also btw, he was blind one eye for a good portion of his career.

Willie Pep- defensive wizard that help redefine the sport. Was like 132-1 or whatever when he started out.

Muhammad Ali- took three years off, came back and beat this mythical beast who was 44-0 called George Foreman and avenged his only loss to Frazier, had great chin, speed, and impacted the sport more than Pac ever did.

Carlos Monzon, retired after 100 fights, never knocked out, beat every opponent he faced by avenging his only three loses, btw, he was shot in the leg and fought with tissue and tendon damage that decreased his mobility and agility, and YET HE STILL KNOCK GUYS THE F OUt.

Also do your boxrec on these guys Benny Leonard, Gene Tunney, Joe Gans, Archie Moore, Joe Louis just to name a few.

I am not even a Pac hater, but YEs i can see people having issues saying that he is a top 5 fighter.