Comments Thread For: Chagaev: Haye-Harrison is 50-50, I'll Beat Them Both

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  • WladIsTheChamp
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    #11
    Originally posted by Freedom Fighter
    Haye will never fight Chagaev. He'll use the Hep B as an excuse, even though he could easily be vaccinated.

    Hep B is actually common, 1/3 of the people on earth get it sometime in their lives. Akinwande had it, most boxers are vaccinated. Anybody as promiscuous as Haye probably has it anyway.
    THIS

    The Vagina will avoid a top 10 fighter under 35 at all cost. Chagaev is a bit too dangerous for the pansy wanna-be actor, so he will use the Hep B excuse.

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    • WladIsTheChamp
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      #12
      Originally posted by Freedom Fighter
      Possibly...

      Haye prefers to fight old men, but he may hesitate because Hopkins is still not too bad. If Hopkins LOSES to Pascal, Haye will be more likely to fight him.

      But I think Haye will go for Roy Jones Jr instead, and then brag about beating a legend.
      The Vagina will either fight Hopkins, Jones, or Holyfield for his next fight.

      But even if the crooked WBA allows Vagina not to fight Chagaev based on Hep B, he will have to fight a mandatory that will either be Valuev (who was at #2 as of the end of September) or Boytsov (who is at #3). Valuev is still having another surgery, I think he is done. I garauntee you, Vagina will duck Boytsov, too young, too dangerous for her.

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      • Davros?
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        #13
        Originally posted by Freedom Fighter
        But I think Haye will go for Roy Jones Jr instead, and then brag about beating a legend.
        When you beat a legend you become a legend.

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        • paulf
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          #14
          Ruslan, you put up brave performances against Valuev and Wlad, but...


          Not it's not.

          and no you wont.

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          • paulf
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            #15
            Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
            The Vagina will either fight Hopkins, Jones, or Holyfield for his next fight.

            But even if the crooked WBA allows Vagina not to fight Chagaev based on Hep B, he will have to fight a mandatory that will either be Valuev (who was at #2 as of the end of September) or Boytsov (who is at #3). Valuev is still having another surgery, I think he is done. I garauntee you, Vagina will duck Boytsov, too young, too dangerous for her.
            I can see Haye taking on Chagaev, actually. Remember that belt is his only angle to getting paid, if he loses it he's ****ed. If the Klitschko fight doesn't happen, I can see Haye fighting Chagaev and maybe David Tua or Odlanier Solis next year? I don't see the Klitschkos or Haye being willing to take the risk of fighting Holyfield after him nearly upsetting Nikolai.

            Outside of Haye/Klitschko.... Haye/Chagaev, Haye/Tua, and Haye/Solis are all pretty compelling heavyweight fights. Do you disagree?

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            • I_like_wendys
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              #16
              Originally posted by paulf
              I can see Haye taking on Chagaev, actually. Remember that belt is his only angle to getting paid, if he loses it he's ****ed. If the Klitschko fight doesn't happen, I can see Haye fighting Chagaev and maybe David Tua or Odlanier Solis next year? I don't see the Klitschkos or Haye being willing to take the risk of fighting Holyfield after him nearly upsetting Nikolai.

              Outside of Haye/Klitschko.... Haye/Chagaev, Haye/Tua, and Haye/Solis are all pretty compelling heavyweight fights. Do you disagree?
              As opposed to Haye/Adamek, Haye/Povetkin, Haye/Arreola, or the first 2 against either Klitschko....?

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              • Chunk..
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                #17
                Originally posted by I_like_wendys
                As opposed to Haye/Adamek, Haye/Povetkin, Haye/Arreola, or the first 2 against either Klitschko....?
                Arreola is ****!

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                • WladIsTheChamp
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by paulf
                  I can see Haye taking on Chagaev, actually. Remember that belt is his only angle to getting paid, if he loses it he's ****ed. If the Klitschko fight doesn't happen, I can see Haye fighting Chagaev and maybe David Tua or Odlanier Solis next year? I don't see the Klitschkos or Haye being willing to take the risk of fighting Holyfield after him nearly upsetting Nikolai.

                  Outside of Haye/Klitschko.... Haye/Chagaev, Haye/Tua, and Haye/Solis are all pretty compelling heavyweight fights. Do you disagree?
                  I agree but only with the Haye/Chagaev part. Tua is shot and you saw Monte did to him. Haye/Solis, we don't know how good Solis is yet, he hasn't fought anyone, the Austin fight should tell us a lot. I know they have a history from the am, but this is the pros and Solis is about 50-60lbs heavier than he was back then and it's not muscle weight.

                  So Tua/Haye would be a joke and won't mean anything for the division, Solis/Haye, maybe the fight will have significance if Solis beats Austin convincingly. Haye/Chagaev, yes, I would pay money to see that.

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                  • nordic
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                    #19
                    I think Chagaev (who is a real heavyweight) will be too much for Haye. Haye knows that and will come up with some better or worse excuse to avoid facing him in the ring (if he beats Harrison first).

                    I personally see Haye as the one of the most overrated HW champs in a very long time and he actually doesn't even deserve his belt as Wlad Klitschko beat Chagaev convincingly at the time Ruslan had the WBA belt. It was just some weird politics (which is sadly common in pro boxing) causing that Chagaevs WBA title wasn't on the line when he fought against Wlad.

                    And don't get me wrong, Haye is a great boxer, great cruiserweight, but not a real heavyweight champ as he has shown through his actions that he doesn't have any ambitions to really face the best of the heavyweights. Talk is the cheap way to get into the headlines but if you really would like to rule the division, you have to do it through your actions.

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                    • joe strong
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                      #20
                      Been watching heavyweight boxing for 21 years...chagaev is one of the overrated boxers I have ever seen.haye will kick his ass & I think he'd have trouble with harrisons size & southpaw style.chagaev took such a risk in his only title defence vs matt Skelton...wins vs ruiz,valuev & meehan...wins vs these 3 are decent but he really hasn't done that much.

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