Bert Sugar "I Believe Mayweather Will Beat Pacquiao, But Floyd Thinks He May Lose"

[al-Xander]

I think Floyd realizes he can't potshot Pacquiao to a decision and at some point Pacquiao will drag him into a war. He will have to go toe-to-toe with Manny at some point, maybe even for all 12 rounds. For all the talk about how Morales beat him, how Marquez really won their two fights, both those guys went through hell against Pacquiao. Manny Pacquiao isn't an easy fight for anyone.

Mayweather is the master of adjustments, can win fighting any style, and will do what it takes to win. I don't doubt that Floyd can stand there and exchange with the best offensive fighter in the sport, and actually get the better of him. But I don't know if he's at the point in his career and his life where he wants to get down in the mud and claw his way to a victory.

The blood testing issue will be brought up and argued about here, like it always does. But that's besides the point. Whether Pacquiao is or isn't on some sort of drugs, the fact that Floyd brought up the issue in the first place when he never brought it up in any of his previous fights shows that he's hesitant to take on Manny. Somewhere deep down, he thinks there's a possibility that Pacquiao could hurt him and even beat him. That's just the truth.

Floyd's fans bringing up the testing issue
over and over again in these forums just says
that they're not sure Floyd would win this fight.

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Floyd's fans bringing up the testing issue
over and over again in these forums just says
that they're not sure Floyd would win this fight.

Your pretty dumb ass if you think its not the main issue that prevented the fight ,,, you say dont bring it up although its the reason Floyd is scared to fight without the test ,,,, think of it this way for one second , just say Floyd believes in his own mind that Manny is on Peds , ok , not maybe he BELIEVES ,,,, now what should Floyd do ?

[RL_GMA]

The evidence dosent support that ,,, the PEDS issue was in the first draft given to Team Pac in March they knew from day dot about OST , they agreed to it at the time in the media , how can it get into Mannys head when Roach came out and said its no problem any test ,, that would have been the end of the whole thing ,,,, but after Arum made all these demands on Floyd that he unexpectantly excepted there was nothing else left that Arum could pull to stop the fight , so then they went back and started to make a big noise about OST ,,,, follow the timeline and its plain to see Arum never wanted Floyd for Manny , he wanted to milk him and thats what he has done .

I don't think "unexpectantly" is a word...but any case...

The only dispute many of the Mayweather fans have with the 1st negotiations besides the blood testing was Pacquiao demanding X amount of dollars if Floyd came in over 147. Things such as glove size, money, ring size according to both camps were agreed upon. Personally, I think it's ****** for Pac's team to demand that, as I also thinks it's ****** to conduct the whole OST when in itself has proven inefficient for Boxing if neither Pacquiao or Mayweather are tested year round when they're not fighting (which is when most athletes are caught using PEDs).

Coming from someone who isn't a biased fan for either Pacquiao or Mayweather, to me it just seems as if Mayweather has built him self up so high that just 1 loss now can completely damage his aura. Talk about pressure, huh?

[JayDee2700]

i disagree with that old fart bert floyd thinks hes going to win !!!!!!!!!! i dont think thers even one doubt in his mind that he will loose !!!!! but he will manny is too quick !!! and while kfc does have good defense he always gets hit with one or two solid punches in every fight !!!! after watching how his legs buckled in the last fight i doubt he survies the 2 good punches manny will get him with !!!!!

These 2 staments tells me ur biased or dont know **** bout boxing, but imma giv u the benifit of the doubt in say you biased. Manny has good hand speed but Floyd is just as fast as Manny an has better reflexes then manny, and has way better foot work then him. N yes Floyd got caught but Shane is bigger an stronger then Manny so i really dont c him rockn floyd as hard as Shane did. I totally agree wit Bert cause style wise, Floyd should win easy but that's wat makes this fight sooo intresting, cause its great defs. VS great offs. an great defs normally beat great offs.

[al-Xander]

Your pretty dumb ass if you think its not the main issue that prevented the fight ,,, you say dont bring it up although its the reason Floyd is scared to fight without the test ,,,, think of it this way for one second , just say Floyd believes in his own mind that Manny is on Peds , ok , not maybe he BELIEVES ,,,, now what should Floyd do ?

That gives me a big chuckle. lol. Bud, if that is what Floyd
thinks, he can move on and fight another fighter! Floyd could
fight anyone and still earn millions, right?

[boxer2k5]

also in that fight, floyd showed an ability to eat big punches yet keep going, like a soldier.

floyd showed in alot of fights he can take a punch. one punch isnt gonna stop him the problem is landing alot on him

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I don't think "unexpectantly" is a word...but any case...

The only dispute many of the Mayweather fans have with the 1st negotiations besides the blood testing was Pacquiao demanding X amount of dollars if Floyd came in over 147. Things such as glove size, money, ring size according to both camps were agreed upon. Personally, I think it's ****** for Pac's team to demand that, as I also thinks it's ****** to conduct the whole OST when in itself has proven inefficient for Boxing if neither Pacquiao or Mayweather are tested year round when they're not fighting (which is when most athletes are caught using PEDs).

Coming from someone who isn't a biased fan for either Pacquiao or Mayweather, to me it just seems as if Mayweather has built him self up so high that just 1 loss now can completely damage his aura. Talk about pressure, huh?

Again your overlooking the time line of events its crucial in seeing Arums plans ,dont forget OST was in the very first draft that little bit is sooooo important in this , they knew about it all along , explain to me how they negotiate other things purse weight gloves penalitys and then go back and pull out of the fight on OST when that was on the first line , did they need weeks to think about OST if so why agree to it initially ,, its not logical .

I used the word unexpected because nobody and I mean nobody expected Floyd to accept 50/50 ,,,, he did ,,,, he could have been regular Floyd and said no Im worth more , with the numbers backing him up to prove it and walk out ,,, he didnt he signed the contract , you know why because Floyd wanted the fight , Arum did not and its as plain as day , just got to follow the time line as events actually unfolded .

[boxer2k5]

I think Floyd realizes he can't potshot Pacquiao to a decision and at some point Pacquiao will drag him into a war. He will have to go toe-to-toe with Manny at some point, maybe even for all 12 rounds. For all the talk about how Morales beat him, how Marquez really won their two fights, both those guys went through hell against Pacquiao. Manny Pacquiao isn't an easy fight for anyone.

Mayweather is the master of adjustments, can win fighting any style, and will do what it takes to win. I don't doubt that Floyd can stand there and exchange with the best offensive fighter in the sport, and actually get the better of him. But I don't know if he's at the point in his career and his life where he wants to get down in the mud and claw his way to a victory.

The blood testing issue will be brought up and argued about here, like it always does. But that's besides the point. Whether Pacquiao is or isn't on some sort of drugs, the fact that Floyd brought up the issue in the first place when he never brought it up in any of his previous fights shows that he's hesitant to take on Manny. Somewhere deep down, he thinks there's a possibility that Pacquiao could hurt him and even beat him. That's just the truth.

floyd style isnt pot shot. look at roy early in his career he use to bust people up. later on he realised he didnt need to do all that to win fights. same with floyd. why throw 100 punches when you can win the round with 20? but you better believe if floyd is losing he will turn it up and if manny is constantly in his face he has no choice but to punch. but if someone jsut standing in front of you and you can land at 60% why not potshot.

[boxer2k5]

These 2 staments tells me ur biased or dont know **** bout boxing, but imma giv u the benifit of the doubt in say you biased. Manny has good hand speed but Floyd is just as fast as Manny an has better reflexes then manny, and has way better foot work then him. N yes Floyd got caught but Shane is bigger an stronger then Manny so i really dont c him rockn floyd as hard as Shane did. I totally agree wit Bert cause style wise, Floyd should win easy but that's wat makes this fight sooo intresting, cause its great defs. VS great offs. an great defs normally beat great offs.

word thats like saying well if floyd hit manny with the shots marquez buckled him with would it be over lol. manny been knocked out and stuned and hurt. why people bring up floyd being stunned by mosley who jsut knocked out iron chin margirito and has a high ko% yet he couldnt even floor or finish off floyd in the same round.

[puga]

i believe pac will win without a single scratch on his face!