No fighter in the history of boxing has faced as good of competition as Oscar.

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  • BennyST
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    #41
    There are quite a lot of fighters who have faced amazing competition. The difference with Oscar is that most people saw him fight and he was popular so people remember and know him.

    Someone like Pat Lawlor, yeah I know right...who? Pat Lawlor has faced Roberto Duran, Wilfred Benitez, John David Jackson, Hector Camacho, Terry Norris, Rene Arredondo, Vinny Pazienza, Joe Calzaghe, Librado Andrade, Juergen Braehmer...All of them multiple champions except for Andrade.

    There are guys like this all throughout the history of boxing.

    Tommy Hearns also is rather beastly; Duran, Leonard, Hagler, Barkley, Hill, Benitez, Cuevas, plus a million other great champions and fighters.

    Duran probably has the best competition ever along with someone like Harry Greb, Langford, Robinson etc and this for a guy who started fighting at bantamweight and was best at lightweight! Leonard (top 3 WW ATG), Hagler (top 3 MW ATG), Hearns (top 3 JMW ATG), Benitez (youngest champ ever), Palomino (HOF WW), Buchanan (HOF LW), Cuevas (HOF WW) and on and on... Barkley, Ernesto Marcel, De Jesus, Camacho, Pazienza, Kobayashi, Moore, Jorge Castro, William Joppy, Ishimatsu...plus many other champions and top ranked fighters. Nearly every one of these guys are in the HOF, or on the ballot and are long time, multiple division champions.

    ****! Think about this; Ernesto Marcel was a HOF 126 pound champ, who beat HOFers like Arguello, Serrano etc and Duran beat him in the late 60's from memory and then you have a guy like Jorge Castro, who was a huge MW champ, that fought up to 200 pounds for titles, and that beat great champions like John David Jackson, Reggie Johnson, among many, many others etc and Duran beat him in the late nineties at 168! Just think about that for a minute.
    Last edited by BennyST; 11-10-2010, 01:08 AM.

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    • BennyST
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      #42
      Iran Barkley has a monster record too. Three time, three division world champion with a minor heavyweight title that he on off HW champ Gerrie Coetzee or was it Trevor Berbick?
      Roberto Duran
      Thomas Hearns
      Michael Nunn
      Sumbu Kalambay
      James Toney
      Trevor Berbick (HW champ)
      Gerrie Coetzee (HW champ)
      Henry Maske
      Adolpho Washington (CW champ)
      Nigel Benn
      Darron Van Horn

      Again, all champions from lightweight to heavyweight with every division covered in between except 140.

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      • Motofan
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        #43
        What made Oscar's competition so impressive is the fact that he could have fought nobodies and still been on PPV and rich as hell. He may not have always beat the best, but he wanted to fight them when he easily could have been wealthy ducking them. And for the record, he beat Tito, and Sugar in the rematch.

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        • TheBaadshah
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          #44
          Originally posted by Mayweather41-0
          No fighter in the history of boxing has faced as good of competition as Oscar de la hoya.
          Agreed! He belongs right up there with the other ATGs when it comes to competition...one of the main reasons he's my top 3 all time fave. But if what Roach said about him is true...kinda disappointing...

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          • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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            #45
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
            your history doesn't go back as much as everyone else's i guess.
            Name one fighter that did?

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            • Left Hook Tua
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              #46
              Originally posted by RossCA
              Name one fighter that did?
              i did already.

              you think oscar has the greatest resume ever in the history of boxing?

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              • JDezi4
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                #47
                IF we're talkin history, not even close. If we're talking recently, like this decade. Yeah, I'd say he's very high on the faced opposition. He damn sure wasn't no Journeymen. Let's also take into account how he lost. Trinidad clearly filled out at 160 better than him, and yet he does better against Hopkins (get's KO'd but was winning on a scorecard). Loss or nor, he completely schooled Trinidad. He was arguably robbed against Mosley the second time and that's despite the PED use. And the first time, u saw him take punches from Mosley that usually put people straight to sleep. He's the only person to beat Mayweather on a scorecard. Say what u will about the Whitaker fight, but that wasn't as much a robbery as it was a close fight that just so happened to tip in his favor. He did better against Whitaker than Chavez. The only time he was ever dominated was when he was dehydrated, weight drained, and virtually shot.

                Say what u want about him, he was an absolute monster. Other than maybe Hopkins, there really wasn't anyone he lost to that he couldn't beat at his absolute best.

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                • JDezi4
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                  #48
                  What did Roach say?

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                  • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                    i did already.

                    you think oscar has the greatest resume ever in the history of boxing?
                    Name him again. I'm not going back through this thread to find out, just want to know who you think faced better comp.

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                    • check hook
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Mayweather41-0
                      No fighter in the history of boxing has faced as good of competition as Oscar de la hoya.


                      Roberto Duran:
                      - SRL
                      - Hearns
                      - Hagler
                      - Esteban De Jesus
                      - Davey Moore
                      - Iran Barkley
                      - Comacho
                      - Wilfred Benitez

                      Muhammad Ali:
                      - Foreman
                      - Frazier
                      - Liston
                      - Berbick
                      - Holmes
                      - Spinks
                      - Shavers
                      - Norton
                      - Jimmy Young
                      - Ron Lyle
                      - Floyd Patterson
                      - Jerry Quarry


                      and Ali fought some of these guys two or three times.

                      These are just two names that come to mind.

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