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That doesn't at all address how MMA is helping boxing. It's not. MMA to most people is synonymous with UFC who's president is a failed boxing promoter himself. Every now and then he issues the odd challenge to Mayweather or Tyson but it brings nothing to boxing whatsoever. MMA's casual fans cannot even speak on MMA with much knowledge much less boxing. Or any other fight sport for that matter.
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I said why I think MMA will help boxing, This year boxing had the biggest PPV ever, were they all Harcore boxing fans that ordered it? You said "MMA is hurting boxing" this thread was first made in 2005, was MMA hurting boxing back then also? Were they stealing fans? Last year was the Second best PPV ever for boxing. 1999 is still the biggest but that will fall by the end of the year. We like to think that boxing lives and dies in the US, thats not so, Germany is quickly becoming the New Boxing capital. Boxing isnt dying like people believe, its acctually having a huge upswing this year.Comment
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Man I hope you're right but the last PPV killer was DLH and he said he's not going to fight forever and that he can see the end of the road.
So where's the next boxing PPV king? I don't really see it and boxing in the US is what this topic pertains to thouhg in Germany things are moving along nicely.Comment
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MMA isnt helping Boxing but boxing was out of the mainstream long before UFC got their TV deal... Look no further than corrupt, bloated, and numerous sanctioning bodies, Floyd mayweather/John Ruiz types who think its ok to expose boxing for the fraudulent fight sport that it can be if pushed in the ring, lack of skill as athletes flock to the NFL, stifling of mainstream coverage by PC over-pacified ******* media, etc....Last edited by BmoreBrawler; 09-03-2007, 07:45 PM.Comment
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Yup, boxing's own fault too for making some bad PPV choices and Lineal boxing champs becoming virtually meaningless and indecipherable to John Q. Public.Comment
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THE MYTH OF BOXING AS A "DYING SPORT"
Much like Jim Lampley's thoughts on the subject of mixed martial arts, the whole notion of boxing as a "dead sport" or a "sport that needs to be saved" is based largely on ignorance of the facts. The facts are that last year was the second-biggest year in boxing history at the pay-per-view box office, with $177 million in gross PPV revenue for HBO.
It would also be inaccurate to say that boxing can't draw decent PPV buyrates without Oscar de la Hoya. While De la Hoya vs. Mayorga was boxing's biggest event in 2006, it only generated $42 million out of the $177 million in HBO's gross PPV revenue last year. The remaining $132 million in gross PPV revenue was drawn by fights that did not feature De la Hoya.
One of the reasons for the existence of this false perception about boxing's fortunes is the dramatic rise of the UFC on the PPV landscape in 2006. Even with boxing having its second-biggest year ever in 2006, the UFC surpassed boxing for the first time ever in 2006, with gross PPV revenue of $222,766,000 generated by UFC PPVs in 2006.
The drastic increase in the UFC's pay-per-view buyrates did not appear to negatively affect boxing's PPV buyrates. In fact, a major boxing PPV and a major UFC PPV aired at the same time on PPV last November, and neither event suffered any significant ill effects as a result of the head-to-head competition. There is some crossover between the two sports' fans, but nowhere near as much as one might assume.
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=3922&zoneid=3
The UFC had a Phenomenal year last year, but something else you have to consider. Who were the biggest draws in the UFC last year? Chuck Liddell, Matt Hughes, Tito Ortiz. All three have been Ko'd in the last year, Will the UFC fans still pay to watch the new champions fight? Time will tell, you said something good earlier that "UFC fans arent even educated in there own sport" Thats very true about the "Casual fans" alot of those casual fans dident know the awsome talent MMA had in Japan, and now they are comming to the UFC. If those "Foreign" fighters start to dominate in the UFC thats when we will see how much of the fans really love the sport.Comment
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It's a tad bit messy because who would sponser a boxing match and end up not being guranteed that their commercial will be shown. PPV did help deteriorate the popularity of boxing but so did money hungry promoters who did not put forth their best efforts to make the best fights.Comment
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this is a BS thread....just think about it
what sport is used as a platform in most Hollywood movies... Boxing=Rocky, Cinderalla Man, Million Dollar Baby, Raging Bull, so on and so on
almost every guy has a favorite boxer...
you see more people playing around and boxing rather than playing around and doing arm bars...
Boxing is a big part of America
plus...on your poll...how do we know how legit that is...u prolly asked first, "why is boxing low on the totem pole?" before you even did the survey
almost every American has seen Rocky and if not it should be a part of being a citizen here...
boxing was the first real sport in America...
Boxing just isn't hyped up...it's the scheduling and marketing...too much diversity in the organization and structure of boxing...
GIMME my points!!!Comment
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