Comments Thread For: Haye: Drop The Slave Contract and I'll Fight a Klitschko

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  • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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    #21
    Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
    See Freedom Fighter's post and my post earlier...that will answer the whole options thing...
    OK just read them, if that's so, this fight should be made in 2011. If Haye is lying, it should really come out then.

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    • Kris Silver
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      #22
      Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
      I agree with the last paragraph but you are nuts if you think Gaye deserves more than 50/50, even if its just by a little.
      Dude I pretty much just laid into Haye there, and I'm more of a Haye fan than Wlad.

      All I said was Haye has a slight point in trying to get more of the UK PPV. I bet the Klit's have done this kind of thing, and it's pretty common in Boxing.

      From my perspective I think it's a shame and shouldn't be common.

      So, a 50-50 total split is fair and Haye should take it.

      But you can't make out Haye's alone in being the side of the country with a bigger PPV market wanting a bigger slice of that.

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      • Weltschmerz
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        #23
        Every time Haye opens his mouth, he seems to either repeat or contradict himself, or both... It's getting old... Fight or shut up you coward. You make a bad name out of boxing.

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        • BrooklynBomber
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          #24
          Who cares what haye has to say at this point. He will only gain any ground in the industry when he fights either brother. Anything else is simply a real life rendition of a dog barking on a passing caravan metaphor

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          • WladIsTheChamp
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            #25
            Originally posted by KrisSilver
            Dude I pretty much just laid into Haye there, and I'm more of a Haye fan than Wlad.

            All I said was Haye has a slight point in trying to get more of the UK PPV. I bet the Klit's have done this kind of thing, and it's pretty common in Boxing.

            From my perspective I think it's a shame and shouldn't be common.

            So, a 50-50 total split is fair and Haye should take it.

            But you can't make out Haye's alone in being the side of the country with a bigger PPV market wanting a bigger slice of that.
            Agree that you weren't favorable on Haye but Haye doesn't deserve a bigger slice of the Brit PPV market under any circumstances, to say so, would mean that Wlad or Vitaly aren't bringing any extra PPV sales to the equation, which we know is not true. With Wlad or Vitaly, Gaye does at least 1.5 mil PPV sales. Without Wlad or Vitaly, Gaye would be lucky to get 700K PPV (which I doubt he ever got that high, there were never official numbers published for Valuev or Ruiz, all we know is that Gaye had to give away 2 for 1 tickets for Barrett and that wasn't too long ago).

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            • starkiller
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              #26
              A slave contract to Haye is someone asking him to fight either Klitschko, because he knows he can't beat either of them.

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              • Enzo Mc is SHIT
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                #27
                Haye will fight a Klitschko.

                He's not an idiot and he knows he'll probably lose. If he'd jumped straight into that defeat he'd be very slightly more rich and famous than he was as the undisputed cruiserweight champ.

                He saw an easy route to a heavyweight belt and a huge amount of public exposure in Valuev, made a mandatory defence for good money, and now he's making millions for a ridiculous mismatch.

                He'll get to the Klitschkos. He's just milking his fame first and it's hard to blame him for that when you see how his life has changed since the Maccarinelli fight.

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                • Kris Silver
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
                  Agree that you weren't favorable on Haye but Haye doesn't deserve a bigger slice of the Brit PPV market under any circumstances, to say so, would mean that Wlad or Vitaly aren't bringing any extra PPV sales to the equation, which we know is not true. With Wlad or Vitaly, Gaye does at least 1.5 mil PPV sales. Without Wlad or Vitaly, Gaye would be lucky to get 700K PPV (which I doubt he ever got that high, there were never official numbers published for Valuev or Ruiz, all we know is that Gaye had to give away 2 for 1 tickets for Barrett and that wasn't too long ago).
                  Dude this is the 3rd time I'm now saying that my personal view is it should be completely 50-50 split, so he shouldn't get a bigger slice of the UK PPV market.



                  However, merely as a sidenote, I'm also saying he has SLIGHT point being as though a Klit wouldn't get those PPV revenues from the UK market without fighting Haye. This is why in todays boxing business it is no matter what you say, common for fights and revenues to be requested to split, and actually split taking those factors into the equation. It's not JUST Haye.

                  Personally I think it's a key thing in causing contract negotiation breakdowns so is such a complex ambiguous thing it's not positive.

                  ME: 50-50 split and that's it.
                  Reality: There's often varying splits, clauses, deals, and Haye nor Klit are noobs to doing it AFAIK. It's common place in the sport.

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                  • the niggest
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                    #29
                    Haye is the biggest dissapointment and disgrace in boxing history, bar none.

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                    • crillz
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                      #30
                      so hold up Wladimir and Vitali are trying to tie him down to 2 fights AFTER and IF he beats 1? then that's 3 back to back fights against the Klitschko's, that's absurd, since when does 1 contract for 1 fight tie you into anything other than just 1 rematch strictly against the guy you beat, if he signed to fight Vitali then in the contract with Vitali it shouldn't bind him to fight Wladimir or even leave the open spce for it to happen, that's separate business and that's not the way it's done..

                      If it's truly like how Haye says, if Wladimir or Vitali don't come out and say something different then it IS horse **** and the Klitschko brothers are out of line, this is a business and it's supposed to be handled as such, if you're Vitali you don't use Wladimir's contract to try to assure yourself a space, a contract is for TWO fighters not THREE

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