Pacquiao: "I am the GREATEST fighter that ever lived" (from 60 Minutes)

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  • tocayito1
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    #231
    Originally posted by check hook
    Revisionist bull**** history at it's finest. Corrales was so weight drained against Floyd, yet he beat Casamayor at 130 some 5 or 6 fights after that??

    Also he had the master himself as his conditioning coach in ALEX ARIZA!!! Guess Alex hadn't figured out the optimum mix for his special blend a that particular time?.....eh ******
    i dont even know what revisionist means but ok ima take it as a compliment....corrales was drained as hell because he didnt fight at 130 until he fought casamayor for the 1st time and another fight he lost....granted he won the rematch at 130 but then went right up again which shows he was having much trouble making weight...and obviously ariza didnt perfect his "ariza shakes"
    yet because then corrales would have become lhw champion...your not gona make me look dumb im just better than you

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    • Ragnar Lothbrok
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      #232
      Originally posted by Dave Rado
      You just owned yourself. Owens is generally regarded by historians as far greater than Lewis and comparable with Bolt. With modern nutrition and training methods, he would be expected by most sports historians to easily beat Lewis and give Bolt a very competitive race.
      thanks for proving my point once again.

      jesse owens beating carl lewis?


      you are delusional. go watch the history channel you old geezer.

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      • Dave Rado
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        #233
        Originally posted by Willie Swindler
        but he doesnt have that. that's the ****ing difference. you cant have it both ways dude.

        bolt & lewis have it. jesse owens doesnt. you cant have your cake & eat it too.
        It's not having your cake and eating it at all. It's you who is trying to do that by pretending that if Owens was to race against Lewis in a fantasy match-up, they wouldn't have access to the same nutrition and training methods as each other. You presumably also think that the average PhD science student today is a greater scientist than Newton because they know a lot of things that he didn't know. Ridiculous argument.

        ATG status is based partly on resume and partly on talent and skills. Fantasy head to head match-ups obviously assume a level playing field in terms of nutrition and training.

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        • Bastian Loc
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          #234
          Originally posted by Dave Rado
          You're using ****** straw man arguments. No one is claiming that everything back then was better. But you and ignoramuses like you think that everyone from the past is worse than everyone now, which is ridiculous.



          You just owned yourself. Owens is generally regarded by historians as far greater than Lewis and comparable with Bolt. With modern nutrition and training methods, he would be expected by most sports historians to easily beat Lewis and give Bolt a very competitive race.
          A bunch of dork amateur speculators just like you who have nothing to stand on but their inflated ego and overblown opinions.


          Prove Harry Greb could beat Sergio Martinez.

          You can't.

          Harry Greb had hundreds of fights just like Julio Cesar Chavez where MOST of those guys were long shoremen and cab drivers. Fact is, you CAN'T PROVE ****.

          No matter how self righteous you come across or how badly you want us to notice that one of your crap letters got published in Oscar's Fishnet wearing magazine.

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          • Dave Rado
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            #235
            Originally posted by Willie Swindler
            thanks for proving my point once again.

            jesse owens beating carl lewis?


            you are delusional. go watch the history channel you old geezer.
            Your point is that you don't know anything about the past and that you care even less. You are the one who is delusional.

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            • SryNoAutographs
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              #236
              Greatest Ever? His opponents of late are all coming off Losses. SMH.

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              • Ragnar Lothbrok
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                #237
                Originally posted by Dave Rado
                It's not having your cake and eating it at all. It's you who is trying to do that by pretending that if Owens was to race against Lewis in a fantasy match-up, they wouldn't have access to the same nutrition and training methods as each other. You presumably also think that the average PhD science student today is a greater scientist than Newton because they know a lot of things that he didn't know. Ridiculous argument.

                ATG status is based partly on resume and partly on talent and skills. Fantasy head to head match-ups obviously assume a level playing field in terms of nutrition and training.
                that's exactly what you are doing. lets make this real simple:

                take the jesse owens that showed up & beat zgermans, put him up against the usain bolt that was in beijing, pit them against each other,

                & see who wins.


                what's faster & better? a ferrari from the 60s or a ferrari from the 90s & up?


                You think bob cousy could make an nba roster today?

                You think jim thorpe could cut it in today's nfl?

                Babe Ruth's fat ass tub of lard wouldnt make it pass double a if he was around today.

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                • kadyo's
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                  #238
                  Originally posted by grayfist
                  I voted no. I thought it's a case of Manny playing. Tongue in cheek, it is to me. Most Cebuano-speaking Filipinos have that type of sense of humor. Visiting Cebu and places in Mindanao then listening to local radio and TV stations can easily give that impression. That's if one hasn't already gotten that impression from personal contacts with local folks.
                  Hey there ol bud, no matter how you try to explain to these people they won't get it. They got to live it to believe it. Does that rhyme? lols.

                  Nice to see you posting pal.

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                  • Ragnar Lothbrok
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                    #239
                    Originally posted by SryNoAutographs
                    Greatest Ever? His opponents of late are all coming off Losses. SMH.
                    cotto beat jennings & clottey before getting beat by pac.

                    oscar beat forbes before getting beat by pac.

                    hatton beat lazcano & paulie before getting beat by pac.

                    clottey had a 5 fight winning streak before losing a close fight to cotto then getting beat by pac.

                    margarito beat garcia.

                    how far you want me to go back you butt hurt *****?

                    marquez had a 4 fight winning streak before losing to pac.

                    david diaz had a 5 fight winning streak before losing to pac.




                    thanks for playing & failing.


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                    • Reloaded
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                      #240
                      Originally posted by nelsoncm
                      Because Floyd said it heartily, even downplaying the achievements of the truly all-time greats.

                      Find a better video to bash Pac. This one's not worth it. What Pac said playfully could cause death by hatred and envy.
                      How is that bashing Pac ya dumb *** , I called him a champion with a right to say it , just as Floyd has , must off been the bit where I said Floyd can too that a ******* will somehow convert to hate on Pac ,,, lol , so now its ok to say it so long as your polite , but if your arrogant like many confident people in the world are its wrong ,,, fuuukkkkkkk off !

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