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    Outlaw
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    #21
    I also dont know why Wladimir Klitschko is rated so low. He has arguably the best resume in the division in opposition beaten in impressive fashion. And to refresh people's memories he holds wins over:

    Dave Bostice T.K.O. 2
    Chris Byrd UD
    Monte Barrett T.K.O. 7
    Axel Schultz T.K.O. 8
    Derrick Jefferson T.K.O. 2
    Charles Shufford T.K.O. 6
    Francois Botha T.K.O. 8
    Ray Mercer T.K.O. 6
    Jameel Mcline T.K.O. 10
    Danell Nicholson T.K.O. 4

    He has 3 losses by stoppage. His Brother has 2, but I think Wladimir has faced by far the better opposition. If you just dont approve of him having a glass chin, that is different. But I dont think Ranking Rahman, or Ruiz for that matter higher than Wlad Klitschko is possible.



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      Ketchup Slim Shady
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      #22
      Wlads ranked so low because he hasnt looked good in 3 or 4 years and hes considered damaged goods about a lot of people.

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      • tonytucker
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        #23
        Disgrace!

        The heavywieght division today is a complete disgrace! I remember a great time when we had Tyson,Holyfield,Bowe and Lewis. Now what do we have? Only in this current era could we have 2 former middlewieghts juiced up on steroids, become heavywieght champions of the world! This crop of heavywieghts we have now is disgusting and appaling!
        Later brother brologs. P.S never get to upset with anything that TNT says, because a lot of the time he is talking rubbish!

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        • czars_salad
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          #24
          Originally posted by Bahamut Zero
          The Heavyweight Division...




          is a slow-moving garbage truck!




          Enough of these light punching sons of bitches!
          Enough of these overweight pigs who pretends to be heavyweight boxers!
          Enough of the turtle pace, semi-wrestling style of boxing!
          damn straight

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          • Tha_Greatest
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            #25
            Originally posted by mnash_98
            Vitali's good, without a doubt. But I know there are TONS people who if they had his physical gifts and boxing smarts that would be MUCH better. Braver. Be willing to fight better opposition. Vitali is just a *****. He needs to man up and then I would respect him. What a waste of height and talent if he continues to not use them correctly.

            Hell, just imagine if Vitali had half the balls Byrd has? He might be the undisputed champ and have millions of American fans.

            But no, this isn't the scenario. His PPV bombed with Danny Williams and HBO was bold enough to reject his last opponent because Vitali's content with fighting weak opposition.
            Now their is where i agree with you, Vitali has the tools to become the next great heavyweight but he doesnt take the fights or all the steps to make him great. I think hes the best in the division but he has to step up to the best opponents today, Vitali has a tiny heart, he wanted to keep fighting Lewis when their fight was stopped, and called out Lewis during retirement but he didnt want to continue fighting a dominated Chris Byrd. He just quit. He cancels his last fight, and before that fight, he fights a stiff in Danny Williams.

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            • myke_test1
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              #26
              its all Politics how can you rank Vitali over a guy that has beaten him such as Byrd.....I agree look at Vitali past 5 fights and look at Byrds past 5 fights and you see a huge mismatch. To be honest i'm ready for a tournament but it will never happen

              and some guy said h wish they would fight more ., Well James Toney is your man he is very active and i promise you he will be very busy next year.....i predict another shot at the title

              but far as Byrd sure supposedly he doesn't have punching power or whatever but the guy has heart he will fight anybody as long as they sign the contract and pay him his money something i know Vitali won't do

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                Ketchup Slim Shady
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                #27
                Toneys a dumbass. He didnt need roids to beat Ruiz and he still used it. I lost a ****load of respect for him in that. We could have seen the end of Ruiz but no Ruiz is back and as confident as ever. Damn Toney.

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                • Tha_Greatest
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by myke_test1
                  its all Politics how can you rank Vitali over a guy that has beaten him such as Byrd.....I agree look at Vitali past 5 fights and look at Byrds past 5 fights and you see a huge mismatch. To be honest i'm ready for a tournament but it will never happen

                  and some guy said h wish they would fight more ., Well James Toney is your man he is very active and i promise you he will be very busy next year.....i predict another shot at the title

                  but far as Byrd sure supposedly he doesn't have punching power or whatever but the guy has heart he will fight anybody as long as they sign the contract and pay him his money something i know Vitali won't do
                  Byrd does have more heart than Vitali, I agree cause he faces everyone, hes the only fighter that i can recall fighting these 2 power guys in Ibeabushi and Tua. I just dont like the fact he always seems to win fights that he may have lost(Oquendo ,Golota, McCline) but he is a the most willing fighter in the division.


                  Hey MykeTest1, why do you have a red bar under your avatar, you always post good post when i read your post, you are a knowledgable speaker who seems proud of his heritage, how did you get a bad reputation. I dont understand that.

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                  • Tha_Greatest
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by mnash_98
                    Toneys a dumbass. He didnt need roids to beat Ruiz and he still used it. I lost a ****load of respect for him in that. We could have seen the end of Ruiz but no Ruiz is back and as confident as ever. Damn Toney.
                    Toney did not need steroids, i also agree, Toney should hold a belt but he needs to wisen up ,stop taking roids and take his training conditioning seriously, try not to fatten up when hes suppose to be training.

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