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  • The Troll
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    #11
    Originally posted by mnash_98
    Like Greg Leon of ********** says, "Vitali's biggest win was his loss to Lewis." Enough said!
    That is exactly what Don King said on HBO. I guess De Leon something of a parrot then.

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    • Run
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      #12
      Originally posted by McKay
      Byrd is not anywhere near as good as Vitali. I am not even going into detail about this. It is self explanatory. I think everybody here has seen Byrd's last several fights and Vitali's last several fights. They speak for themselves.
      That doesnt matter. The level of opposition Byrd has faced far supercedes Vitali's. Blown up Williams and Johnson...and a washed up Corrie Sanders. Oh lets not also forget "Mike Ackly".

      And you cant forget he holds a win over Vitali as well.



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      • Sliquestylez
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        #13
        VK is very limited. He just came at the right time where the heavyweight scene is shiet.

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        • BLOODSHED
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          #14
          To prove how much of a ***** Vitali is, he quits against Byrd from a perceived injury but bitches about the doctor's (a real Doctor not a PhD like Vitali) stoppage from cuts. Something aint right in Vitali's head to be ok with quitting and not ok with a legit stopppage.
          Originally posted by McKay
          That is exactly what Don King said on HBO. I guess De Leon something of a parrot then.

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          • The Troll
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            #15
            By the way Chris Byrd sucks. Everybody with 2 eyeballs knows he got blatant gift descision vs Golota and Oquendo and was very fortunate to make it past McCline. The guy is the king of freak ending to fights and especially gift descisions. That cheap trademark Byrd spin your arm around pull is as dirty as the Tyson arm pull via McBride and Botha. He should be disqualified for that crap.

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              #16
              Originally posted by McKay
              By the way Chris Byrd sucks. Everybody with 2 eyeballs knows he got blatant gift descision vs Golota and Oquendo and was very fortunate to make it past McCline. The guy is the king of freak ending to fights and especially gift descisions. That cheap trademark Byrd spin your arm around pull is as dirty as the Tyson arm pull via McBride and Botha. He should be disqualified for that crap.
              That doesnt matter. I am merely talking about statistics. If you want to perceive Vitali as a better fighter because of other attributes fine. It doesn't change the fact both fighters have 2 losses Byrd has only 1 loss by stoppage. Vitali has two of them.



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              • Tha_Greatest
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                #17
                Originally posted by McKay
                Vitali is head and shoulders above Ruiz Byrd and Brewster.

                James Toney is pretty good but his size disadvantage leaves little chance against a fighter like V Klistchko

                Rahman sucks always has

                David Tua was pretty good in his prime blasting such Ruiz and M Moore early but not exactly great, he dropped descisions to Ibeabuchi who was kind a great fighter and to Rahman which is kinda pathetic

                Have not seen alot of Calvin Brock but I doubt he will ever dominate boxing.

                Wlad Klistcko- If he can get past Peter that would be something impressive the guy has alot of skills and natural ability.

                Peter-Have not seem him against any good opponents he has power but little of anything else

                Ruiz-no comment

                Byrd-luckiest son of a biatch in boxing gettting gift descisions against Golota and Oquendo and havig Vitali injure his arm against him. He is also the biggest prick in terms of **** talk and negotiations.
                I also along with TheGreatest agree with you on this matter but thats all ill say cause some people many people, flat out hate Vitali and wont bother even giving certain fighters any kind of credit and regardless of the matter, you can never prove them they are wrong. Its a no win discussion.

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                  #18
                  Vitali's good, without a doubt. But I know there are TONS people who if they had his physical gifts and boxing smarts that would be MUCH better. Braver. Be willing to fight better opposition. Vitali is just a *****. He needs to man up and then I would respect him. What a waste of height and talent if he continues to not use them correctly.

                  Hell, just imagine if Vitali had half the balls Byrd has? He might be the undisputed champ and have millions of American fans.

                  But no, this isn't the scenario. His PPV bombed with Danny Williams and HBO was bold enough to reject his last opponent because Vitali's content with fighting weak opposition.

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                  • badblood
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                    #19
                    Sam Peter is on the way, dont worry. Nicolay Valuev is also lurking.

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                    • TheFairPole
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                      #20
                      My whole problem with not only the heavyweights but all of boxing is that the they need to fight more often! Unless an injury occurs every fighter should fight every 3 months at the most! That is why so many fighters get so out of shape inbetween their fights. Waiting for fights really sucks! It should be like baseball with fights on everyday! That would be awesome!

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