why do people automatically think fighters from old would beat modern day fighters?

[Bushbaby]

Well, this is IMO.

Fighters nowadays are spoiled. They fight only 12 rounds, they have technoglogy and advanced gym equipment. Most dont have much heart or desire cause the world they live in is now spoiled. The only ones who have that true fire are ones who are born and raised in hard times aka ******s. Fighters back then fought 15 tough rounds. They literally trained in blood and sweat cause in order to make money they had to win. they didnt have the advance in technology as we do or the gy equipments or even the medicines we have today. its like there were a tough sculpted rock compared to the "just rocks" of fighters today. why you think the heavyweight division is **** nowadays? people are spoiled into easier things now to make money.

Co-sign here,it was harder to be a fighter back in the days,for starters same day weight-ins!!Very,very important piece of the puzzle!!15 or more rounds fight!!Imagine Robinson in todays boxing with pre-fight weight ins,advancement in technology for training,pure domination,real talk!!

[a-force]

It really isn't. The skill level of today fighter is not far superior at all. Matter of fact is seems that the skill level is getting worse from what like 10 years.

And, for the 2nd bold that all depends on the intangibles of said fighter and what their styles are.

i can see what your saying there in the bold about the said fighters but just cant see how the level of skill is dropping, it may have reached a plateau for the time being, surely the general level of skill in modern day boxing can only improve as time goes on???

[jrosales13]

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i can see what your saying there in the bold about the said fighters but just cant see how the level of skill is dropping, it may have reached a plateau for the time being, surely the general level of skill in modern day boxing can only improve as time goes on???

You would think so, but no is dropping.

Give me a minute to find a post I did comparing today fighters to fighters from back then.

As soon as I find it, I will repost it.

[a-force]

You would think so, but no is dropping.

Give me a minute to find a post I did comparing today fighters to fighters from back then.

As soon as I find it, I will repost it.

sweet...............

[jrosales13]

Re post:

As for as skills that again is not true. Go look at the today P4P list from The Ring and compare it to 10 years ago.

Pac
Floyd
Donaire
JMM
Caballero
Mosley
P-Will
W. Klitschko
Wonjongkam
Martinez

10 years ago

Mosley,
Mayweather
Trinidad
Jones
Lewis
Hamed
Morales
Hopkins
De la Hoya
Corrales

And, compare that to 30 years ago

Ray Leonard,
Thomas Hearns
Roberto Duran
Alexis Argeullo
Marving Hagler
Salvador Sancehz
Wilfredo Gomez
Aaron Pryor
Wilfredo Benitez
Jeff Chandler

The skill of these fighters are going that.

Look at the skill level and slyes of fighters from back in the day.



George Benton style is very similar to a very skillful elite fighter of this era?

Look at Charles Burley style



Look at Primo Carnera style. And, tell me is not like watching Vitaly Klitschko.



And, look at Carnera size. He was 6'5 255-265 pounds, reach was 85 inches. Now compare that to Vitaly who is 6'7 245-250 pound with a reach of 80 inches.

Somehow today fighters have not evlolved as quick as other sports. And, it seems like today instead of getting better are getting worse.

[jrosales13]

Re post:

As for as skills that again is not true. Go look at the today P4P list from The Ring and compare it to 10 years ago.

Pac
Floyd
Donaire
JMM
Bradley
Montiel
P-Will
W. Klitschko
Wonjongkam
Martinez

10 years ago

Mosley,
Mayweather
Trinidad
Jones
Lewis
Hamed
Morales
Hopkins
De la Hoya
Corrales

And, compare that to 30 years ago

Ray Leonard,
Thomas Hearns
Roberto Duran
Alexis Argeullo
Marving Hagler
Salvador Sancehz
Wilfredo Gomez
Aaron Pryor
Wilfredo Benitez
Jeff Chandler

The skill of today fighters are not as good as the skill of the fighters 10 years ago and can't really even be compared to fighters of 30 years ago..

Look at the skill level and slyes of fighters from back in the day.



George Benton style is very similar to a very skillful elite fighter of this era?

Look at Charles Burley style



Look at Primo Carnera style. And, tell me is not like watching Vitaly Klitschko.



And, look at Carnera size. He was 6'5 255-265 pounds, reach was 85 inches. Now compare that to Vitaly who is 6'7 245-250 pound with a reach of 80 inches.

Somehow today fighters have not evlolved as quick as other sports. And, it seems like today instead of getting better are getting worse.

[a-force]

Re post:

As for as skills that again is not true. Go look at the today P4P list from The Ring and compare it to 10 years ago.

Pac
Floyd
Donaire
JMM
Bradley
Montiel
P-Will
W. Klitschko
Wonjongkam
Martinez

10 years ago

Mosley,
Mayweather
Trinidad
Jones
Lewis
Hamed
Morales
Hopkins
De la Hoya
Corrales

And, compare that to 30 years ago

Ray Leonard,
Thomas Hearns
Roberto Duran
Alexis Argeullo
Marving Hagler
Salvador Sancehz
Wilfredo Gomez
Aaron Pryor
Wilfredo Benitez
Jeff Chandler

The skill of today fighters are not as good as the skill of the fighters 10 years ago and can't really even be compared to fighters of 30 years ago..

Look at the skill level and slyes of fighters from back in the day.



George Benton style is very similar to a very skillful elite fighter of this era?

Look at Charles Burley style



Look at Primo Carnera style. And, tell me is not like watching Vitaly Klitschko.



And, look at Carnera size. He was 6'5 255-265 pounds, reach was 85 inches. Now compare that to Vitaly who is 6'7 245-250 pound with a reach of 80 inches.

Somehow today fighters have not evlolved as quick as other sports. And, it seems like today instead of getting better are getting worse.

ok ok i feel you, point taken. you sold me on that p4p list from 30 years ago, geeeeeeeeezzzz!!! thats some scary names on that! i agree with you on now that the top fighters of the present day may be less skilled than those of the past, obviously there are exceptions like floyd for example but lets face it there arnt many like him around are there. twas a pleasure sir......

[cameronpaul]

one big thing that hasnt been brought up it is popularity in the sport. back in the 50's not everyone could play basketball, football, tennis, golf ect. and alot of people if they where good enough could make money from street fights. so my opinion is that although todays fighters have been trained better both physically and skill wise, fighters from the old days will usually always have the natural ability to fight. better chins, more will to win

i think types of boxer matter aswell, i cant imagen someone like amir khan doing as well as he has now in the old days. where as aurthur abraham probably would do as well.

[cameronpaul]

also i rekkon if i had 6 months to train an nba player of my choice i think i could find a guy to beat the klitchkos.

[Piper the Great]

b/c fighters today cry to much. I feel some will beat some though.