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  • The Nature Boy
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    #31
    Originally posted by Dave Rado
    He was a great amateur, but Audley Harrison was a very good amateur, so was Tyrell Biggs. As a pro, he weighed 268½ in his last fight, which for someone who is only 6′ 1½″ tall is a joke. Like many Cuban amateurs who turned pro, he has fallen in love with the hamburger, and has fallen out of love with training. His footwork is not even comparable with that of the great amateur he once was. He has metamorphosed from a sleek fighting machine into a tank. He still has power and skills, but is too slow to cope with any world class fighter, and either Klitschko will humiliate him.
    He has gotten huge, but you never can tell. He's about 40 lbs away from a good prime fighting weight. I'll reserve judgment until I see how he looks against Austin.

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    • Dave Rado
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      #32
      Originally posted by The Nature Boy
      He has gotten huge, but you never can tell. He's about 40 lbs away from a good prime fighting weight. I'll reserve judgment until I see how he looks against Austin.
      When he was an amateur he weighed around 230lb, and that was less than four years ago. In his first fight as a pro he had already ballooned to 258½. His lowest weight in his last four fights was 259½. He might look good against Austin, who is not world class, but unless he does something drastic about his weight, which I see no reason to believe his will do, he has no chance against any world class fighter.

      It's very sad, because he could have been the fighter to seriously test the Klitschkos, and to reignite the division, if he had taken training seriously as a pro.

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      • Davros?
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        #33
        Originally posted by Dave Rado
        When he was an amateur he weighed around 230lb, and that was less than four years ago. In his first fight as a pro he had already ballooned to 258½. His lowest weight in his last four fights was 259½. He might look good against Austin, who is not world class, but unless he does something drastic about his weight, which I see no reason to believe his will do, he has no chance against any world class fighter.

        It's very sad, because he could have been the fighter to seriously test the Klitschkos, and to reignite the division, if he had taken training seriously as a pro.
        Apparently Solis said on his Facebook page that he doesn’t even like boxing anymore, he doesn’t have the desire to win a title.

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        • Dave Rado
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          #34
          Originally posted by Davros?
          Apparently Solis said on his Facebook page that he doesn’t even like boxing anymore, he doesn’t have the desire to win a title.
          I don't believe that for a moment. If it's true, you shouldn't need to say "apparently", you should be able to link to where he said it.

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            #35
            Originally posted by The Nature Boy
            Agreed. I'm not sure if any of these guys really even know who Solis is.
            He's a fat guy that'll get beat up like the rest. Being a great amateur doesn't make you a great pro. We already heards this when Vitali fought Gomez "oh Gomez is very skilled, he'll make Vitali miss and outbox him". Of course, after the fight, Gomez was just another bum

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            • Dave Rado
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              #36
              Originally posted by BritishBoxing92
              and V/Klitschko Vs Adamek would be a great fight to watch now that is definately a fight that should be made which the WBC should sanction if their not too messed up and ****** to make vitali fight some one next who is piss poor....
              Solis isn't piss poor, and they will sanction Vitali-Adamek after Vitali has fought Solis, unless Adamek fights Wlad first. Either way, Adamek will get his title shot in 2011.

              But Adamek is seriously over-rated as a Heavyweight, IMO. He gets his rating on the back of beating Arreola, but Arreola injured his left hand in the fifth round, and was giving Adamek a lot of trouble until then. Without the injury, I'm not convinced Adamek would have won. He was 114-114 and 115-113 on two of the cards as it was, so Arreola only needed to have won one more round to win the fight. And against a fairly shot Michael Grant, Adamek was nearly out on his feet at one point, and even a bloated Solis is far better than Grant. I think Adamek vs. Solis would be a pick 'em fight - if anything, I'd bet on Solis.
              Last edited by Dave Rado; 11-04-2010, 06:03 AM.

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              • Dave Rado
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                #37
                Originally posted by Pirao
                He's a fat guy that'll get beat up like the rest. Being a great amateur doesn't make you a great pro. We already heards this when Vitali fought Gomez "oh Gomez is very skilled, he'll make Vitali miss and outbox him". Of course, after the fight, Gomez was just another bum
                I never heard anyone other than Klitschko fans say anything good about Gomez in the build-up to that fight. Tunney and his ilk were trying to make out that Gomez was a serious contender, but no one else was, He had been fighting at Heavyweight for eight years without fighting a single top 20 fighter; and he had been knocked out in one round by a journeyman called Yanqui Diaz. He wasn't exactly a bum but he didn't really deserve a title shot (other than in the sense that he was a mandatory). I was actually very surprised by how well he did against Vitali, as I had expected it to be a lot more one-sided than it was. Admittedly he had somehow got into The Ring's top 10, but that must have based just on number of successive wins. But he hadn't beaten a single decent opponent at Heavyweight, in eight years at the weight - his Heavyweight resume was as padded as Salita's resume was when he fought Khan.

                Solis isn't going to be a great pro primarily because he doesn't bother to train, but he isn't a bum either. He beat Barrett far more convincingly than Haye did. And I'd pick him narrowly against Adamek too.

                And an in-shape Solis would be a genuine threat to either K bro, but sadly, we're never likely to see an in-shape Solis, as a pro.
                Last edited by Dave Rado; 11-04-2010, 06:10 AM.

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                • Pirao
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Dave Rado
                  I never heard anyone other than Klitschko fans say anything good about Gomez in the build-up to that fight. Tunney and his ilk were trying to make out that Gomez was a serious contender, but no one else was, He had been fighting at Heavyweight for eight years without fighting a single top 20 fighter; and he had been knocked out in one round by a journeyman called Yanqui Diaz. He wasn't exactly a bum but he didn't deserve a title shot (other than in the sense that he was a mandatory). I was actually very surprised by how well he did against Vitali, as I had expected it to be a lot more one-sided than it was. (Admittedly he had somehow got into The Ring's top 10, but that must have based just on number of successive wins. But he hadn't beaten a single decent opponent at Heavyweight - his Heavyweight resume was as padded as Salita's when he fought Khan).

                  Solis isn't going to be a great pro primarily because he doesn't bother to train, but he isn't a bum either. He beat Barrett far more convincingly than Haye did. And I'd pick him narrowly against Adamek too.

                  And an in-shape Solis would be a genuine threat to either K bro, but sadly, we're never likely to see an in-shape Solis, as a pro.
                  Then you weren't paying attention. The usual Klitschko haters and a few other guys were hyping Gomez up saying Vitali would lose to him because he was skilled unlike Peter. I'll dig up the posts later.

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                  • Davros?
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Dave Rado
                    I don't believe that for a moment. If it's true, you shouldn't need to say "apparently", you should be able to link to where he said it.
                    Well i saw it on ESB but didnt check the link i just checked and it is true.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Ravens Fan
                      The funniest thing I read was when Don King, one of the most honest and dignified characters in boxing, stated the following;".....and asked them to make the right decision on order to save the dignity of the WBC." I was laughing so hard when I read this that I fell off of my chair and pissed my pants. I also have to ask how can you save something that has been extinct for many years?
                      I know, for a moment there I though this was a press release by Don King...what a load of crock **** - this Don King we are talking about - the guy who killed two people, has robbed multiple fighters blind, and is probably solely responsible for the downfall of boxing in the US.

                      Don King and "honest" and "dignified" should never be in the same sentence together, ever.

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