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  • WESS
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    #21
    It's interesting that the same punches that destroyed Cotto's face didn't even take the smile off Mosley's face the entire fight.

    How does fighter A destroy fighter B's face but cant even make a scratch on fighter C's face? (Plaster?)

    The same punches that had Cotto on the ground had Mosley smiling at him, that resulted into a serious beating and stoppage.

    Either Mosley is a BEAST who destroyed a BEAST in Margarito (assuming the plaster didn't make a difference in his power) or Mosley destroyed a disgraceful cheating bum.

    So did Mayweather beat a hard hitting BEAST in a "too good" Mosley or is Pac fighting a POS cheating BUM who Mosley just destroyed, embarrassed, exposed and buried in a disgraced grave covered in nasty, smelly shyt of human waste that doesnt deserve to be in the ring??????

    The best fight the best? What happened? Mosley was arguably the #1 WW after beating Margarito and Mayweather fought him. Who is Pac fighting? Who has Pac been fighting?

    The best fight the best? What happened to these standards? Why do we always expect more from Mayweather but let Pac slide? Because the "fight" will be exicting???? lol ok...................

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    • WESS
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      #22
      Originally posted by infamous larryx
      you dont know anything about boxing do you??illegal wraps or not mosley wouldve beaten tony..tony hardly hit mosley cause mosley wouldnt let him get off..cotto refused to clinch and went backward the whole fight
      You have a great point but the fact that none of the punches that did land on Mosley didn't make any kind of marks and that is what bothers me.

      None had that hard sound of leather hitting the face like they did vs Cotto. To me it was like night and day with Margarito of 08 and the Margarito of 09.

      His over all game was different. Stamina, chin, pressure everything was different. It was like he knew he didn't have the advantage anymore.. at least that's what it looked like to me.

      Its like I said, either Mosley destroyed a BEAST in Margarito because the plaster didn't make a difference or Pac is fighting a cheating bum that has no power, no chin, no speed, no movement and will be a VERY easy fight for him as Mosley about put him to sleep. Pac as we have already seen gets another destroyed fighter. Pac will just finish him off as he's already been laying in his own blood from the Mosley fight. Pac just gets the credit as if he beat a PRIME threat (again).....

      But its all in how you look at it. People don't want to make Mosley sound to great because Mayweather beat him easily and we all know NOBODY wants to give Mayweather credit so they look somewhere else..... and if that is the case than Pac is fighting a bum that an old bum in Mosley already destroyed... so again its all in how you want to look at it.....
      Last edited by WESS; 11-03-2010, 11:37 AM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by WESS
        It's interesting that the same punches that destroyed Cotto's face didn't even take the smile off Mosley's face the entire fight.

        How does fighter A destroy fighter B's face but cant even make a scratch on fighter C's face? (Plaster?)

        The same punches that had Cotto on the ground had Mosley smiling at him, that resulted into a serious beating and stoppage.

        Either Mosley is a BEAST who destroyed a BEAST in Margarito (assuming the plaster didn't make a difference in his power) or Mosley destroyed a disgraceful cheating bum.

        So did Mayweather beat a hard hitting BEAST in a "too good" Mosley or is Pac fighting a POS cheating BUM who Mosley just destroyed, embarrassed, exposed and buried in a disgraced grave covered in nasty, smelly shyt of human waste that doesnt deserve to be in the ring??????

        The best fight the best? What happened? Mosley was arguably the #1 WW after beating Margarito and Mayweather fought him. Who is Pac fighting? Who has Pac been fighting?

        The best fight the best? What happened to these standards? Why do we always expect more from Mayweather but let Pac slide? Because the "fight" will be exicting???? lol ok...................
        You must be blind if you think Margarito was able to land the "same punches" on Mosley as he did Cotto.

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        • WESS
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          #24
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          You must be blind if you think Margarito was able to land the "same punches" on Mosley as he did Cotto.
          That's the problem, he didn't BUT he did land some punches and none had the effect. That's what I'm saying. The cotto fight and the Mosley fight was like night and day.

          It wasn't the same fighter at least IMO... My question was, was that due to plaster or was that due to Mosley being that great aka "too good" (for Pac)?

          We all know nobody wants to man up and say Mosley was a beast and a real threat as Mayweather easily outclassed him (when Pac didnt want ANYTHING to do with him)... We sure as hell cant say that. So we must say an old, tired, drained, sleepy, washed up, roid user, had a bad hair day and a tooth ache all in the same day Mosley beat a bum in Margarito that was exposed as a cheater. So what does that make Margarito now that Pac is fighting him?

          Again my other question was the BEST fight the BEST. What happened????
          Last edited by WESS; 11-03-2010, 11:50 AM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by WESS
            That's the problem, he didn't BUT he did land some punches and none had the effect. That's what I'm saying. The cotto fight and the Mosley fight was like night and day.

            It wasn't the same fighter at least IMO... My question was, was that due to plaster or was that due to Mosley being that great aka "too good" (for Pac)?

            We all know nobody wants to man up and say Mosley was a beast and a real threat as Mayweather easily outclassed him (when Pac didnt want ANYTHING to do with him)... We sure as hell cant say that. So we must say an old, tired, drained, sleepy, washed up, roid user, had a bad hair day and a tooth ache all in the same day Mosley beat a bum in Margarito that was exposed as a cheater. So what does that make Margarito now that Pac is fighting him?

            Again my other question was the BEST fight the BEST. What happened????
            shane mosley is tougher and has a better chin than miguel cotto ever had.Cotto struggled with smaller welterweight's like zab judah and an older version of mosley too.I dont think that mosley would haved folded like cotto did against margarito if he was hit with them shots.But thats the whole point he never gave margarito the chance to land aany big shots on him and tied up margarito whenever they were on the inside.

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              #26
              Originally posted by WESS
              That's the problem, he didn't BUT he did land some punches and none had the effect. That's what I'm saying. The cotto fight and the Mosley fight was like night and day.

              It wasn't the same fighter at least IMO... My question was, was that due to plaster or was that due to Mosley being that great aka "too good" (for Pac)?

              We all know nobody wants to man up and say Mosley was a beast and a real threat as Mayweather easily outclassed him (when Pac didnt want ANYTHING to do with him)... We sure as hell cant say that. So we must say an old, tired, drained, sleepy, washed up, roid user, had a bad hair day and a tooth ache all in the same day Mosley beat a bum in Margarito that was exposed as a cheater. So what does that make Margarito now that Pac is fighting him?

              Again my other question was the BEST fight the BEST. What happened????
              how can you compare both fights,??...margarito didn't land as many punches on shane as he did on cotto,with cotto he landed a bunch of punches,what did you expect his face to look like if he's taking a lot of punches? mosley fought differently against marg than cotto did,pac left cotto's face a mess,worse than what margarito did,so does that mean he had loaded gloves too just because his face looked worse?..marquez didn't even look like cotto did when he fought pac,it's ridiculous to compare both fights and say something was in his gloves just because shane didn't feel the punches like cotto did,shane has always taken a good punch,cotto never,look at what he did with clottey and pac,he ran when he felt the power,both fights arent even close,cant compare them...but we will see what happens with pac/marg fight,if pac is all messed up,cut up what excuse will people use? that he had loaded gloves?

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                #27
                Originally posted by WESS
                That's the problem, he didn't BUT he did land some punches and none had the effect. That's what I'm saying. The cotto fight and the Mosley fight was like night and day.

                It wasn't the same fighter at least IMO... My question was, was that due to plaster or was that due to Mosley being that great aka "too good" (for Pac)?

                We all know nobody wants to man up and say Mosley was a beast and a real threat as Mayweather easily outclassed him (when Pac didnt want ANYTHING to do with him)... We sure as hell cant say that. So we must say an old, tired, drained, sleepy, washed up, roid user, had a bad hair day and a tooth ache all in the same day Mosley beat a bum in Margarito that was exposed as a cheater. So what does that make Margarito now that Pac is fighting him?

                Again my other question was the BEST fight the BEST. What happened????
                Shane is a tougher....stronger man than Cotto.

                You know damn well Manny doesn't fight the best.

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                • pistol whip
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                  #28
                  Since when was margarito ever a big puncher? Seriously you guys act like he had lights out punching power when in fact he was always just an average puncher.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by WESS
                    That's the problem, he didn't BUT he did land some punches and none had the effect. That's what I'm saying. The cotto fight and the Mosley fight was like night and day.

                    It wasn't the same fighter at least IMO... My question was, was that due to plaster or was that due to Mosley being that great aka "too good" (for Pac)?

                    We all know nobody wants to man up and say Mosley was a beast and a real threat as Mayweather easily outclassed him (when Pac didnt want ANYTHING to do with him)... We sure as hell cant say that. So we must say an old, tired, drained, sleepy, washed up, roid user, had a bad hair day and a tooth ache all in the same day Mosley beat a bum in Margarito that was exposed as a cheater. So what does that make Margarito now that Pac is fighting him?

                    Again my other question was the BEST fight the BEST. What happened????
                    I think you are really only taking into account the punches from that night but if you notice also Mosley was bullying Margarito around the ring

                    when have you ever seen any fighter bully Margarito? sure he lost to PWill but never did P push Tony around as if nothing. Not even Clottey who is technically bigger than Shane

                    Tony faced a man not to be denied and bull strong that night

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                    • lopez36
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by pistol whip
                      Since when was margarito ever a big puncher? Seriously you guys act like he had lights out punching power when in fact he was always just an average puncher.
                      i alway thought the same thing,to me he isn't a hard puncher,its the accumulation of punches and wears down the opponent,just like cintron said it too,its the volume of punches,the pressure that breaks you down,not a single punch,and thats how cotto lost,by accumulation of punches,marg was never able to do that with mosley,thats why i find if ridiculous to compare both fights and say something was up with marg's gloves just because he couldn't finish or hurt mosley the same way he did cotto,with cott it wasn't a single punch,it was a lot,a lot of punches landed,just like pac landed a lot of punches,with mosley he never was able to do that,yeah one punch here and there but he never was able to get to him and pressure him like he did to cotto,i don't get that comparison at all

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