Comments Thread For: HBO Pres Unsure Why Mayweather Turned Pacquiao Down

[IMDAZED]

Hmm, that letter doesn't specify nandrolone, what Toney tested positive for.

[SonnyboyReturns]

Under commission rules nandrolone is considered an "anabolic" agent. The question is not whether or not something was on the banned substances list, it was whether or not he could have elevated nandrolone/test levels from taking a supplement and the answer is yes.

Androstendione metabolizes into nandrolone which raises testosterone past natural levels. At the time it was sold in nutritional stores all across the country. He didn't take something that was considered by law to be illegal. As an example NCAA rules prohibit the use of the supplement " Jack3d" because it contains 1,3 1,3 Dimethylamylamine, which is not classified as a banned substance, however, prohibited by certain regulatory bodies.

Where did Jones test positive for nandrolone?

[SonnyboyReturns]

Hmm, that letter doesn't specify nandrolone, what Toney tested positive for.

I used it to show he tested for "anabolic steroid". But did he test positive for nandrolone?

[IMDAZED]

I used it to show he tested for "anabolic steroid". But did he test positive for nandrolone?

No, he didn't.

[switchsouthpaw]

Where did Jones test positive for nandrolone?

He tested positive for androstendione, which is a prohormone that once ingested metabolizes into nandrolone. PH's at the time were legal by law and found in nutritional supplements all over the country. The difference between a prohormone vs anabolic steroid, apart from one being legal and the other not legal at the time, is that PH's must go through a conversion in the body elevating testosterone. Anabolic steroids require no conversion and are banned substances by "law".

Fernando Vargas tested positive for an anabolic agent (nandrolone) after taking a product made by VPX sports (makers of the energy drink Red Line), which again at the time was not classified as a banned substance. You can find references to Jones/Andro by simply performing a search. The reporting practices under the commission at the time simply classified his positive result as the result of using an anabolic agent, they don't make a distinction. Well androstendione is an anabolic precursor, just not illegal...or wasn't at the time. The specifics of his positive test result have always been public.

[ALG United]

He tested positive for an ANABOLIC steroid. As did Hall. Jones was six times over the testosterone limit, Hall was ten times over. I don't know what Hall took but I can tell you that Jones was using that real ****.

It's boxing, man! You have almost no chance of getting caught and when you do...who cares?

You really are a Floyd **** Rider kid, you are talking about two documented drug users like it was OK back then and that nobody cares about it at present. A member of Floyd's drug crusader stating to us 'who cares', yes this happened 10 years ago but still they got caught. While at present, you don't even want Floyd to give Manny that negligible 7 days window, Manny who hasn't failed any kind of drug test since turning pro 15 years ago. A racist can only believe that Manny is a PED user, coz you cannot believe in your eyes and mind that a lowly little ASIAN midget can achieve such greatness...

[IMDAZED]

He tested positive for androstendione, which is a prohormone that once ingested metabolizes into nandrolone. PH's at the time were legal by law and found in nutritional supplements all over the country. The difference between a prohormone vs anabolic steroid, apart from one being legal and the other not legal at the time, is that PH's must go through a conversion in the body elevating testosterone. Anabolic steroids require no conversion. Fernando Vargas tested positive for nandrolone after taking a product made by VPX sports, which again at the time was not classified as a banned substance. You can find references to Jones/Andro by simply performing a search. The reporting practices under the commission at the time simply classified his positive result by use of anabolic agent. Well androstendione is an anabolic precursor, just not illegal...or wasn't at the time.

Not illegal? About the only truthful thing you wrote here is admitting he tested positive for andro and not nandrolone, like you were lying your ass off about before. And a steroid test would detect the structural DIFFERENCE between the two, which is why Jones tested for andro and not nandrolone. So I guess we can disregard all that other bull**** you wrote?

[switchsouthpaw]

Not illegal? About the only truthful thing you wrote here is admitting he tested positive for andro and not nandrolone, like you were lying your ass off about before. And a steroid test would detect the structural DIFFERENCE between the two, which is why Jones tested for andro and not nandrolone. So I guess we can disregard all that other bull**** you wrote?

Useful idiot answer this question.

1) When did Jones test positive?
2) What year did Andro end up on the banned substances list?

3) Do the ****ing math moron and you'll see how much of an idiot you are.


Nandrolone is present in the body, use of PH's can elevate nandrolone levels past what is perceived as "normal levels", hence raising testosterone. Which is what triggered a positive result. His testosterone was 7x the normal limit.

I can see you're a guy who is incapable of sifting through information, so again you attack me rather than the context of my posts.

So now you're an expert in steroid testing? Jesus Christ what else are you an expert in, besides **** riding? He tested positive from a urine sample and they only tested for what was considered banned at time, they don't draw a distinction between a legal product and an anabolic steroid. You're not that smart of a guy, a lot of people here know it but you being the useful idiot that you are continue posting things to which you have no direct knowledge of.

[IMDAZED]

Again you're a useful idiot. Nandrolone is present in the body, use of PH's can elevate nandrolone past what is perceived as "normal levels". I can see you're a guy who is incapable of sifting through information, so again you attack me rather the context of my posts.

So now you're an expert in steroid testing? Jesus Christ what else are you an expert in, besides **** riding? He tested positive from a urine sample and they only tested for what is on a banned list, they don't draw a distinction between whatever elevates your levels past what is perceived as normal. You're not that smart of a guy, a lot of people here know it but you being the useful idiot that you are continue posting things to which you have no direct knowledge of.

Thanks for the info on nadrolone - which Jones did not test positive for. For obvious reasons which, an expert such as yourself, should know.

Are you done?

[switchsouthpaw]

Thanks for the info on nadrolone - which Jones did not test positive for. For obvious reasons which, an expert such as yourself, should know.

Are you done?

Did you finish college?