If ibeabuchi never got locked up, how much competition would he give the Klitchkos?

[Tiozzo]

only if you'll admit the truth that juanma marquez turned down a fight with naseem hamed.

where did you pick that ?

evidence or it didn't happen Mr. Tua is a mediocre midget

[Guest]

man , the heavyweight division is so dead to me now.

i use to love the heavyweights.

even the mediocre ones like tua , moorer , oquendo and you of course. (though i did lose money on your ass in the bowe rematch)

You know I had a gun charge before the fight right?

They caught me with 12 illegal guns, or so they said.

Total set up, man.

I wasn't there emotionally man.


Thought I was getting deported and all because of my second ********* rights.

[Left Hook Tua]

WRONG ******. you said that rahman gave tua more problems then IKE. rahman was ko'd against a late 90s tua while ike went head to head with A early tua. rahman wasn't winning the fight and he didn't get hit AFTER the bell. tua landed the more powerful meaningfull shots even before the ko. also heres the proof that the shot didn't come after the bell.

fast forward to 0:50 the bell was late but at BEST the bell would have still been ringing as the punch was landed. you're ******ed.......

give it up. just admit you didn't see the fight. admitting a white lie is better than people thinking you're ******.

rahman gave tua a lot of problems.

more problems than ike.

the L and W doesn't matter. just because tua won doesn't mean rahman didn't give him problems.

[americanbot]

You are probably the first person I've ever heard say Tua was winning the first fight before Rahman got stopped..

No offense, I've never heard that before.

Yeah Tua rocked him at times, but to me it was a surprise Tua got him with a Sunday punch.

clearly you live in a box. i am not the only one who felt tua landed the more meaningful hurtful punches over the course of that fight. i had tua up even before he ko'd rahman. wasn't a blow out but i had him up......

i thought tua was the all around more effective guy.......

[Tiozzo]

you see, you have gone from ''mediocre'' to ''good''

who is it again who doesn't know what mediocre means ?

first off, he was (or is, whatever) a very exciting fighter

a man who has beaten 4 former title holders is hardly ''mediocre'' (Rahman, Moorer, Maskaev, Ruiz)

it is true that he has lost his 2 championship fights, but LL is no bum obviously and Byrd was too slick

Tua has always fought inside of his capacities which are limited by his small stature

that guy also has a top 5 AT left hook at HW

this isn't the picture of a mediocre fighter to me, but again, I think you have already backtracked about that

funny how you have ducked this

man , the heavyweight division is so dead to me now.

i use to love the heavyweights.

even the mediocre ones like tua , moorer , oquendo and you of course. (though i did lose money on your ass in the bowe rematch)

[Left Hook Tua]

where did you pick that ?

evidence or it didn't happen Mr. Tua is a mediocre midget

google it.

it was a long , long time ago.

before hamed fought barrera.


nacho turned the fight down.

[Guest]

clearly you live in a box. i am not the only one who felt tua landed the more meaningful hurtful punches over the course of that fight. i had tua up even before he ko'd rahman. wasn't a blow out but i had him up......

i thought tua was the all around more effective guy.......

I guess I live in that box that every single professional writer and ex-fighter as well as every judge at the fight lived in when I saw it.

Not your alternative universe.

[Left Hook Tua]

funny how you have ducked this

i didn't duck it. i didn't see it.

tua had a mediocre career.

he was a good fighter but mediocre career.

doesn't mean he had a bad career but he could have done more.

[XionComrade]

yeah because frank bruno , tony tucker , bonecrusher smith , trevor berbick and the other guys from the 80's had no weaknesses.

Not anything like that man...Those 3 had serious training issues. That they would even be compared to Lewis, Klit, Tyson is ridiculous. Shouldn't have even been contenders the way they wound up. Tua started off really strong, then quickly fell to ****, he just didn't give one ounce of a crap.

[americanbot]

give it up. just admit you didn't see the fight. admitting a white lie is better than people thinking you're ******.

rahman gave tua a lot of problems.

more problems than ike.

the L and W doesn't matter. just because tua won doesn't mean rahman didn't give him problems.

******. I have no reason of lying about seeing a ****ing fight. i am a BOXING PSYCHOPATH WHO BREATHES AND EATS THIS SPORT. when you said that rahman gave tua more problems then "ike" i pointed out that tua was YOUNGER & undefeated vs ike. & the ike fight was a BRUTAL fight. in fact it's the most punches ever thrown in heavyweight HISTORY. rahman got the left overs of that & pretty much still got knocked out. going into the 2000's rahman basically dominated tua. thats because tuas body had already started to fade.