If ibeabuchi never got locked up, how much competition would he give the Klitchkos?

[Tiozzo]

vitali got roughed up & stopped against byrd. vitali had the early rounds but was pressured in the later part & then quit saying that the big bad bryd was too rough on his arm LOL.

ike knocked out a PRIME bryd. you said that ike has never fought a "bigger fighter" thats a LIE because he has fought fighters just as wide as him & just as tall as vitali. vitali HAS ALMOST NEVER fought someone that was bigger then him.


OH boy ike was bigger then bryd. (BARELY)

heres whats funny. WHO HAS vitali or wlad beat thats a better win then what ike has on his resume? vitali didn't beat byrd. he fought lewis but that wasn't a win. who did wlad beat?

ike beating a prime tua is better then ANYTHING that ether klit has on their resume. & thats SAD because ike career wasn't even finished LOL

arguing with steelhammer is like arguing with a machine

it won't get you nowhere

[Die Antwoord]

Hilarious, Vitali has fought a ton of guys who weighed more than him, and the only legit guy who is taller than him, Vitali tracked down and offered the highest payday in his life and the guy turned him down. 12 of Vitali's fights have been against guys who weigh more than him, thats over 25% of his fights. Not the easiest task when you are 250 lbs.

Man, Vitali hurt his arm and seemed to not care about the gravity of the situation. get over it, does anyone actually think Byrd would have beaten vitali? If you do then youre an idiot and if you dont then it doesnt matter in terms of fantasy fights. So the Byrd fight doesnt matter. Ike was 6'2 245 lbs when he faced Byrd, face it, he was getting fat. Wow, he beat David Tua, whose greatest accomplishment is that he is the WBO Asian Pacific Islander Champion. I hear his goal is to one day unite the Asian Pacific Islander belt and then no one will doubt that he truly is the best Asian Pacific Islander Boxer out there. David Tua...hilarious. Ibeabuchi wasnt some great, man, that dude fought 2 known fighters and 18 total bums and then went crazy. So overhyped.

[americanbot]

"bigger" meaning taller & more robust....

not bigger as in WEIGHT ALONE. (meaning fatter)

[Steelhammer2011]

FAO: american******

Lets compare resumes:

Ike Ibeabuchi:
- Byrd

- Tua

- 18 bums

Ibeabuchi got his ass whooped by the overrated one dimensional Tua.

Tua never won a world title.

Prime Tua was schooled by Byrd, who was destroyed twice by Wlad and dominated by one-armed Vitali

Tua was KTFO in the 1st round by Felix Savon, who was clearly beaten twice by Ruslan Chagaev, who was destroyed by Wlad.


Wladimir Klitschko:

- Most dominant fighter in the world.

- Has cleaned out the HW division

- IBF/WBO/IBO/RING Unified heavyweight champion of the world

- Olympic Gold Medalist

- 49 KOs in 55 wins

- Has made 16 dominant world title defences

- Has defeated 8 world heavyweight champions:

Chris Byrd I (31-1)
Chris Byrd II (39-2)
Sam Peter I (24-0)
Sam Peter II (34-3)
Ruslan Chagaev (25-0)
Sultan Ibragimov (22-0)
Lamon Brewster (33-3)
Hasim Rahman (45-5)
Francois Botha (44-3)
Ray Mercer (30-4)

- has defeated tons of top contenders:

Eddie Chambers (35-1)
Calvin Brock (29-0)
Tony Thompson (31-1)
Jameel McCline (28-2)
Monte Barrett (23-0)
Ray Austin (24-3)
DaVarryl Williamson (20-2)
Axel Schulz (26-3)
Derrick Jefferson (23-2)
Charles Shufford (17-1)
Eliseo Castillo (18-0)
etc....

[Steelhammer2011]

Vitali Klitschko:

- has dominated every opponent he has ever faced

- 38 KOs in 41 wins

- great chin, never been down

- has never been behind on the scorecards

- only man ever to be world heavyweight champ in boxing and kickboxing

Vitali is almost 40 now, came back after a 4 year layoff and is still dominating the heavyweight division. He hasn't lost a single round in his comeback.


Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis

THE TRUTH

Vitali took the fight on just 10 days notice.

Vitali was clearly winning the fight 4-2 on all 3 scorecards at the time of the controversial doctor stoppage. Lewis was badly hurt and was staggering around the ring like a drunk, he barely survived the 2nd round. Lewis was getting outboxed, outworked, outlanded and was hurt several times in the fight.

punches landed

Vitali 156

Lewis 102


Lewis was exhausted, worn down and hurt from the accumulation of punches and was ready to get KTFO again, he collapsed onto his stool at the end of the 6th round, Vitali was the fresher of the two, he was a man on a mission and would've KO'd Lewis for sure if the fight had continued.

All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and booed Lewis after the fight.

Lewis promised Vitali a rematch.

Vitali destroyed Kirk Johnson in 2 rounds and called out Lewis again in the post fight interview. The scared Lewis retired shortly after that fight.

Lewis turned down 30 million dollars for a rematch and retired like a coward because he knew he would get destroyed by Vitali.

Vitali dominated Lewis and scared his bitch ass into retirement.



George Foreman: "Vitali was winning the fight. Lewis got lucky. There has to be a rematch!"

Jim Lampley: "A lucky escape for Lewis who was clearly losing the fight"

Even Emanuel Steward was upset and pissed off at Lewis for blatantly ducking a Vitali rematch.

Lewis is scared to death of Vitali.

[americanbot]

That's true- I can't deny the Klitschko's skill and determination, but I can't deny Ike's either.(based on watching them fight/train and on reading of their lives outside of the ring.)

I guess we'll just never know

its one of those things that no one will ever know but everyone will have opinions towards it.

[americanbot]

arguing with steelhammer is like arguing with a machine

it won't get you nowhere

the guy is a total loon. he HATES to debate with someone that actually knows what their talking about. everytime he gets PWND he runs to go dig up some CRAP to copy & paste. only for people to just skip right over it laughing.....

if you can't have a basic conversation & debate MAN to MAN (like human beings) you will be ignored.

[Guest]

One of if not the most overrated fantasy fighters on this forum, coulda, woulda, but didn't.

Great post and to the point.

We can compare the Ike that went life and death with Tua, to the Lewis that dominated Tua, 11 to 1, to the Rahman that got ko'ed by Tua and embarraseed by lesser fighters to the one that ko'ed Lewis.

For all we know, Ibeabuchi was so crazy he could've pulled an Oliver McCall against the Klitschkos ala the second fight against Lewis.

[Guest]

People like to forget after the Tua fight Ibeabuchi complained of headaches and increasingly bizarre behavior ( making scenes on airplanes, telling people to call him the president, times when the law was called ), like it couldn't have possibly have been from punches.

When the most bizarre ***** happend after he fought Tua.

[Toe Injury]

Vitali Klitschko:

Lewis was exhausted, worn down and hurt from the accumulation of punches and was ready to get KTFO again, he collapsed onto his stool at the end of the 6th round, Vitali was the fresher of the two, he was a man on a mission and would've KO'd Lewis for sure if the fight had continued.

All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and booed Lewis after the fight.

Lewis promised Vitali a rematch.

that cut changed boxing forever

anti-vitali people cling to "lewis beating him" as evidence this era is vastly inferior to the oh so amazing 90s despite vitali winning the fight quite convincingly aside from the cut

good posts