I may seem naive but i think Margarito beats Pacquiao

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    #11
    Originally posted by Lorily
    My main concern, after all I've read and seen leading up to this fight and most recent 24/7, is the main ingredient seems to be missing for Pac this time around... his desire and heart doesn't seem to be in it like before. And, Margarito believes that a win against Manny will make people forget all about his past (not that it's true, but HE believes it). That is giving him the motivation needed to give 150% in preperation for this fight. Like Rios said in last nights episode, Margarito is training and sparring like a guy still coming up in the ranks. Pac seems to be acting like nothing is a big deal.
    I still have su****ions that the Pac camp may only be showing and telling us what they want us to see and hear, but there seems to be some genuine concern of most everyone in his own camp.
    I still believe that Manny will win this fight, and I think once he gets in that ring he will bring it like he always does. Pac can train until the cows come home, but if his heart is not in it then that will make enough difference to give Margarito a better fighting chance. I just hope he doesn't go in the ring underestimating that the guy in the opposite corner has nothing to lose and everything to gain in winning this fight. Margarito wants to win this fight more then anything he has ever wanted before, and THAT makes him very dangerous.

    Side note: When Margaritos camp was taping that concrete block to his hands in last nights 24/7 episode, and joking about closing his eyes and not seeing it - I was disgusted. That right there should tell everyone that Tony (and his camp) thinks it's funny and is all a big joke. He has ZERO remorse, and even at the slightest of chances that he didn't know (I don't believe that) it DID happen and is no laughing matter. And with Garcias most recent comments (article saying Roach had better watch them carefully during the hand wrapping before the fight) it makes it harder and harder to want to let the incident go and (try) to give Antonio the benefit of the doubt of anything.
    It was classless, and I hope it comes back to bite them all in the A$$!!!! The End.
    Why would Marg have remorse??? he didn't hit anyone with plaster so who cares if he jokes about it? they were removed BEFORE the fight remember?

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    • nillamilkshake
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      #12
      Originally posted by Lorily
      My main concern, after all I've read and seen leading up to this fight and most recent 24/7, is the main ingredient seems to be missing for Pac this time around... his desire and heart doesn't seem to be in it like before. And, Margarito believes that a win against Manny will make people forget all about his past (not that it's true, but HE believes it). That is giving him the motivation needed to give 150% in preperation for this fight. Like Rios said in last nights episode, Margarito is training and sparring like a guy still coming up in the ranks. Pac seems to be acting like nothing is a big deal.
      I still have su****ions that the Pac camp may only be showing and telling us what they want us to see and hear, but there seems to be some genuine concern of most everyone in his own camp.
      I still believe that Manny will win this fight, and I think once he gets in that ring he will bring it like he always does. Pac can train until the cows come home, but if his heart is not in it then that will make enough difference to give Margarito a better fighting chance. I just hope he doesn't go in the ring underestimating that the guy in the opposite corner has nothing to lose and everything to gain in winning this fight. Margarito wants to win this fight more then anything he has ever wanted before, and THAT makes him very dangerous.

      Side note: When Margaritos camp was taping that concrete block to his hands in last nights 24/7 episode, and joking about closing his eyes and not seeing it - I was disgusted. That right there should tell everyone that Tony (and his camp) thinks it's funny and is all a big joke. He has ZERO remorse, and even at the slightest of chances that he didn't know (I don't believe that) it DID happen and is no laughing matter. And with Garcias most recent comments (article saying Roach had better watch them carefully during the hand wrapping before the fight) it makes it harder and harder to want to let the incident go and (try) to give Antonio the benefit of the doubt of anything.
      It was classless, and I hope it comes back to bite them all in the A$$!!!! The End.
      good post,especially the end bit.

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      • Lorily
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        #13
        Originally posted by Erik ♥
        Why would Marg have remorse??? he didn't hit anyone with plaster so who cares if he jokes about it? they were removed BEFORE the fight remember?
        Well, IMO that's a little like saying "[Insert Name] took a gun and shot at [Insert Name], but the bullet missed so it's okay (and funny)."

        Just because he got caught before it happened, doesn't take away the intent. It certainly doesn't make it funny or a joking matter.

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          Pac will DESTROY Margarito. I'd be shocked if it goes more then 7 rounds tops. Margarito is way too slow, no defense, and his best asset has pretty much been cracked by Shane Mosley which was his great chin. Plus let's not forget he won't have his cement inserts in his gloves. This fight will make Pac look like the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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          • King Ju-Ju
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            #15
            If any1 was 2 watch 24/7, how can you not believe this with the way HBO is making it out 2 be??? They have Margarito focused and Pacquiao runnin' around like a mad man and gettin' beat up in sparring. Honestly, im not buying it. He better have that cement block that they was joking around with come Nov. 13th. Its sad 2 see him joke about that. Little does he know that joke is on him cuz he's the moron that got trying 2 cheat.

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            • KingOfBox
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              #16
              LOL at you rookies thinking that Margarito doesn't have a chance... Since when does speed determine a boxing outcome... It is an important ASSET but doesn't always prevail... Margarito v Cotto, Judah v Baldomir, Cotto v Judah, Peterson v Rios, Abraham v Taylor, Jones v Tarver/Johnson, Pacquiao v Morales, Martinez v Margarito, Mosley v Wright, Mosley v Forrest... I could go on and on.... Mosley v Forrest kind of reminds me of the kind of fight that can result if Manny doesn't crank it up this week... AND of course Manny COULD just take him to town... WHO KNOWS??? but don't be naive and justify with speed. STYLES MAKE FIGHTS!!! And as much as I think Tony is undeserving of this fight... He IS in it.. And people never look good beating Margarito except for Shane.. And Pac does not hit as hard as Shane

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                #17
                Originally posted by Lorily
                My main concern, after all I've read and seen leading up to this fight and most recent 24/7, is the main ingredient seems to be missing for Pac this time around... his desire and heart doesn't seem to be in it like before. And, Margarito believes that a win against Manny will make people forget all about his past (not that it's true, but HE believes it). That is giving him the motivation needed to give 150% in preperation for this fight. Like Rios said in last nights episode, Margarito is training and sparring like a guy still coming up in the ranks. Pac seems to be acting like nothing is a big deal.
                I still have su****ions that the Pac camp may only be showing and telling us what they want us to see and hear, but there seems to be some genuine concern of most everyone in his own camp.
                I still believe that Manny will win this fight, and I think once he gets in that ring he will bring it like he always does. Pac can train until the cows come home, but if his heart is not in it then that will make enough difference to give Margarito a better fighting chance. I just hope he doesn't go in the ring underestimating that the guy in the opposite corner has nothing to lose and everything to gain in winning this fight. Margarito wants to win this fight more then anything he has ever wanted before, and THAT makes him very dangerous.

                Side note: When Margaritos camp was taping that concrete block to his hands in last nights 24/7 episode, and joking about closing his eyes and not seeing it - I was disgusted. That right there should tell everyone that Tony (and his camp) thinks it's funny and is all a big joke. He has ZERO remorse, and even at the slightest of chances that he didn't know (I don't believe that) it DID happen and is no laughing matter. And with Garcias most recent comments (article saying Roach had better watch them carefully during the hand wrapping before the fight) it makes it harder and harder to want to let the incident go and (try) to give Antonio the benefit of the doubt of anything.
                It was classless, and I hope it comes back to bite them all in the A$$!!!! The End.
                Get off your E'ffin sopabox man! Have a snese of humor, it was a DAMn joke! Geez get your panties out of a bunch... SMH

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by KingOfBox
                  LOL at you rookies thinking that Margarito doesn't have a chance... Since when does speed determine a boxing outcome... It is an important ASSET but doesn't always prevail... Margarito v Cotto, Judah v Baldomir, Cotto v Judah, Peterson v Rios, Abraham v Taylor, Jones v Tarver/Johnson, Pacquiao v Morales, Martinez v Margarito, Mosley v Wright, Mosley v Forrest... I could go on and on.... Mosley v Forrest kind of reminds me of the kind of fight that can result if Manny doesn't crank it up this week... AND of course Manny COULD just take him to town... WHO KNOWS??? but don't be naive and justify with speed. STYLES MAKE FIGHTS!!! And as much as I think Tony is undeserving of this fight... He IS in it.. And people never look good beating Margarito except for Shane.. And Pac does not hit as hard as Shane
                  Pac also can't physical do what Shane did that night in terms of landing combos to the head and body and then wearing Tony down by tying him up... He leaned on Tony half the fight and I believe that was the difference... Shane was strong enough to keep Tony off of him... It wasn't his speed that night, it was his strength...

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                    #19
                    Pacquiao will destroy Margarito, HBO is just trying to sell the fight, like they did with PBF against Marquez. I bet lots of ppl thought that JMM is gonna win, cos after all he did drink his own urine and all.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by KingOfBox
                      LOL at you rookies thinking that Margarito doesn't have a chance... Since when does speed determine a boxing outcome... It is an important ASSET but doesn't always prevail... Margarito v Cotto, Judah v Baldomir, Cotto v Judah, Peterson v Rios, Abraham v Taylor, Jones v Tarver/Johnson, Pacquiao v Morales, Martinez v Margarito, Mosley v Wright, Mosley v Forrest... I could go on and on.... Mosley v Forrest kind of reminds me of the kind of fight that can result if Manny doesn't crank it up this week... AND of course Manny COULD just take him to town... WHO KNOWS??? but don't be naive and justify with speed. STYLES MAKE FIGHTS!!! And as much as I think Tony is undeserving of this fight... He IS in it.. And people never look good beating Margarito except for Shane.. And Pac does not hit as hard as Shane
                      You make some good points, but dude, this fight will be nothing remotly like Mosley Forrest, Margarito doesn't even have a 1000th of the level of skills Forrest had, and im being serious.

                      But i get your point, speed doesnt always win fights, and its very true. But in this case Manny doesnt just have speed on his side, he has footspeed, timing, athleticism, even defence which Manny is sub par at, pretty muc everything except size Manny has in his favour. But mainly, styles, Margaritos style is easy for Pac to get it get out due to his foot and hand speed i think thats why people are highlighting the fact that Margarito is so slow because its going to be a huge factor. I think Manny obliterates Margs, but he will gets some cuts and bruises on the way.

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