Comments Thread For: David Haye Talks Retirement, Klitschko, Acting Career

[LeadUppercut]

Your theory is based on the assumption that Haye knows he'll lose to either of the K bros.

Yet his money-making potential would be utterly destroyed if his fans realised that he knows that. His fights are only big sellers because his fans believe his hype, and think that he really believes he can beat the K bros.

So his whole strategy is based on cynically conning the public in order to make a few extra bucks, when he's already far richer than 99.999% of the population will ever be, and when he would have been far richer than he is now, before he retires, even if he had fought a Klitschko instead of fighting Audley.

To support that behaviour you have to be extremely cynical, which I am not, and which I don't think any boxing fan should be. Recognising that con men inhabit the sport and condoning it are two different things.

It is harming the sport, and no fan should condone it.

And much more annoying than Haye's behaviour is the behaviour of the media. None of the British journalists are calling him on the fact that he turned down as good an offer to fight Wlad as he's ever going to get and a better one than he had any right to expect, while continuing to pretend that it's Wlad who is ducking him rather than the other way around. Not one British journalist has pointed this out. Boxingscene journalists have been a bit better but not much. And The Ring has stayed quiet on the subject.

Haye's strategy depends on the cynical connivance of the media, because if they turned against him - even just to the extent of pointing out what he's doing and why he's doing it - his fights wouldn't sell. And he's getting their connivance, despite the fact that what he's doing is bad for boxing. And that stinks.

Haye will never have any problem affording anything he wants to buy, even if he retires tomorrow (unless he throws all his money away Floyd-style). So I refuse to accept that we should be sanguine about him harming the sport while cynically conning the public, in order to slightly increase his already massive retirement fund.

You'll be justifying the behaviour of the bankers next!

Not really, it's just the same old risk/reward trade-off decision that has to be made by any management team when choosing the next opponent for their guy.

Haye is a blown-up cruiser, the K's are 6'6"-250lbs, and have owned the heavyweight division for most of the last decade, and they KTFO almost everybody they fight.

Why would Haye fight them next? especially with only 12 months to go on his self-imposed career deadline.

He will take everything he can, for as long as he can, before taking such a MASSIVE risk..... just as you would

[LeadUppercut]

The annoying thing is that now Haye won't shut up, and he's going to talk **** for another whole year

Other than that..... hard luck for the K's, they had their chance.

[Toe Injury]

Nah, there are still lucrative easy fights out there for him. It'll be Holyfield then possibly Dimitrenko.

good call

holyfield is well above hayes age limit and his fans wont know the difference between dimitrenko and kilitschko - tall guy with weird name

[Dave Rado]

He will take everything he can, for as long as he can, before taking such a MASSIVE risk..... just as you would

No I would not, especially if I thought I had any chance of winning, but even if I didn't, I wouldn't. But if for some reason I did decide to do what you say, I would at least use the "not ready" excuse, as Povetkin and Adamek have done, instead of weaving a tissue of lies and cynically getting the press to back me up and to deceive the boxing public. Povetkin and Adamek at least have some integrity, and some respect for their sport. Haye has none.

[BostonGuy]

After that he could follow it up with remake of an inter-racial "Brokeback Mountain" with full gaye scenes. His co-star can be Povetkin, and instead of cowboys they can just play a pair of boxers.

Diva Gaye, I definetly see a future for you in Hollywood, please leave boxing, no one need to drag boxing down with more cowardliness and ducking

Honestly, I think David Haye would struggle with that role. I don't think he could play it.

[LeadUppercut]

No I would not, especially if I thought I had any chance of winning, but even if I didn't, I wouldn't. But if for some reason I did decide to do what you say, I would at least use the "not ready" excuse, as Povetkin and Adamek have done, instead of weaving a tissue of lies and cynically getting the press to back me up and to deceive the boxing public. Povetkin and Adamek at least have some integrity, and some respect for their sport. Haye has none.

Well, I would not use the "I am not ready" excuse..... ever.

And at this stage of Povetkin's career, who will prepare him for Wlad ?

He will never be ready.

Personally, I would do exactly as I stated earlier, whether I fancied my chances or not..... because that point is actually irrelevant.

I would take everything that I could, for as long as I could..... before I took a MASSIVE risk that could potentially end my earning ability.

What I would not do however.....

* is refer to myself as the savior of the heavyweight division, unless I was ready to go..... now, to be fair to Haye, he was ready to go when he made those comments, I have not heard him say that since before his title shot against Valuev.

* I would not continue to make these ****** sniping remarks almost on a daily basis, unless I was ready to go.

The only problem that I have with Haye is his big fkn mouth.

He should STFU, until he is ready to go.

[Dave Rado]

Well, I would not use the "I am not ready" excuse..... ever.

And at this stage of Povetkin's career, who will prepare him for Wlad ?

He will never be ready.

You mean "ready to win". But the phrase could just as well mean "ready to fight".

He should STFU, until he is ready to go.

Well we agree on that, anyway.

[LeadUppercut]

Well we agree on that, anyway.

But we are going to have to listen to him for another whole year.

[Davros?]

What sort of films do we see Haye in?

[Sweet Jesus]

What sort of films do we see Haye in?

Not any films that will ever appear in the US.