Forget who holds which belt... The people's champion in each division.. Agree?

**phil" the hitman "manny** · 08-12-2005, 07:56 AM

I do but wait for the UK haters.

**theironone** · 08-12-2005, 08:26 AM

i'd agree with that but i'm hoping come november jeff lacy is the peoples champ

**moochi** · 08-12-2005, 08:27 AM

pretty fair except for a few: the calzaghe, hatton and barrera bits........i think the supermiddleweight champ is KESSLER, whereas the superlightweight is vacant as PBF and HATTON are even on this one.........Barrera is **** and MORALES is the one by far.

**BadMagick** · 08-12-2005, 08:28 AM

Heavyweight - Vacant
Cruiserweight - Jean-Marc Mormeck(don't watch this division myself)
Light Heavyweight - Antonio Tarver
Super-Middleweight - Jeff Lacy
Middleweight - Jermain Taylor
Light-Middleweight - Vacant
Welterweight - Zab Judah
Light-Welterweight - Floyd Mayweather
Lightweight - Jose Luis Castillo
Super-Featherweight - Erik Morales
Featherweight - Juan Manuel Marquez
Super-Bantamweight - Oscar Larios
Bantamweight - Rafael Marquez

That's my list, and you did say "people's" champ. I like Floyd over Ricky, and Lacy over Cal***gie. And I think Corrales robbed Castillo, and should have been DQ'ed so I really can't stand him.

Originally posted by moochi

pretty fair except for a few: the calzaghe, hatton and barrera bits........i think the supermiddleweight champ is KESSLER, whereas the superlightweight is vacant as PBF and HATTON are even on this one.........Barrera is **** and MORALES is the one by far.

The people's champ, man. The people's champ.

**Martin (Top Knowledge)** · 08-12-2005, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by moochi

pretty fair except for a few: the calzaghe, hatton and barrera bits........i think the supermiddleweight champ is KESSLER, whereas the superlightweight is vacant as PBF and HATTON are even on this one.........Barrera is **** and MORALES is the one by far.

How you've come up with Kessler as the "people's champ" at 168lbs I'll never know... I can only imagine that you've looked up on the net and seen that he currently holds the WBC belt, and that because you know little about the super-middleweight division... You've seen that as a more prestigious belt?

Calzaghe is the Champion @168lbs... "FULLSTOP"

p.s... Barrera beat Morales and took his WBC belt the fight before last.

**moochi** · 08-12-2005, 09:05 AM

martin have you ever seen Kessler fight..........that's all i have to say......this people's champ is all bull****, as all it is, is the yanks and poms ranking the fighters that they have seen.......this is how they come up with lacy and YOU come up with calzaghe......and by the way, you are wrong about him holding the wbc belt, it is the wba belt.....so this shows your lack of knowledge on this..........the wbc belt is held by your mate markus beyer.

barrera beat morales by a round only, whereas he got annihilated by pacman......and morales then beat pacman......also by a round....morales fights the better opposition.......

**RAESAAD** · 08-12-2005, 09:17 AM

Not if you really mean "the peoples" champs.

**Martin (Top Knowledge)** · 08-12-2005, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by moochi

martin have you ever seen Kessler fight..........that's all i have to say......this people's champ is all bull****, as all it is, is the yanks and poms ranking the fighters that they have seen.......this is how they come up with lacy and YOU come up with calzaghe......and by the way, you are wrong about him holding the wbc belt, it is the wba belt.....so this shows your lack of knowledge on this..........the wbc belt is held by your mate markus beyer.

barrera beat morales by a round only, whereas he got annihilated by pacman......and morales then beat pacman......also by a round....morales fights the better opposition.......

"Lack of boxing knowledge"...

Come on now moochi, we can have a discussion about boxing without it turning into a slagging match right??? - Even if we do disagree... What's happeneing to this website???

I have seen Kessler fight... He's appeared on Eurosport (tv channel) before and considering the guy he was fighting, I wasn't particulary impressed. Especially considering some of the guy's Calzaghe has beaten and the fashion he's beaten them in. + Calzaghe has fought so many more names at 168lbs and defended his belt 17 times. (He won that belt in 1997').

I just dunno how you could rate Kessler above Calzaghe in terms of achievments AND who would win if they fought?

Barerra may have won by 2-3 rounds... But he certainly won. Morales fight with Pacquiao was like a 2nd vs 3rd in the division in my eyes.

**moochi** · 08-12-2005, 09:38 AM

don't worry martin, i was thinking about adding an extra sentence saying that i don't disrespect you or your opinions in any way, just in case you took my post the wrong way...however i thought that my post might just have been borderline enough not to induce you to want to counter...

nevertheless, just opinions in here mate, and no slagging.

i never said i rate kessler ahead of calzaghe in terms of achievements...you mentioned this right now.....so i rate KESSLER ahead of him now, not of calzaghe's history....of course calzaghe achieved heaps...but he has passed his peak in my opinion......

eurosport shows old fights, so i'm not sure if you have seen kessler's defining fights vs. siaca and mundine.......

Barrera beat Morales by 1 point on 2 judges and even the other.....but his opposition is not that high...whereas morales seems willing to fight anyone....at the same time because Barrera got totally destroyed by Pacman, and isn't even dreaming of a rematch, keeps him down the ranks.....Pacman fights anyone anytime and he has proved his colour.............If Tszyu were to return and beat Maussa, that wouldn't put him back at the top, he'd need to either avenge or take out all other contenders....this barrera has not done.

Forget who holds which belt... The people's champion in each division.. Agree?