Haters

[Bad Intentions]

It's because he went around shouting that he was the best... But he's spent his whole career slipping up a weight division and down a weight division to avoid fighting the best.

Basically he's ducked and avoided the best in each division for years.

slipping up and down ey? the only time he went back down was to fight tarver, he never went back to other weights after he moved up, and he didnt avoid no one, ur like british buddies wouldnt come over here so it works both ways, im not saying they were ducking him cuz it aint even like that, they both wernt willing to go no where, and who else did he aviod? Gerald McClellan? wernt they friends? didnt Roy use to work in his corner some times? He beat Toney and Hopkins 2 of the best 2day but get no credit for either..

[cvt]

i think jones ducking everyone is an exaggeration, he did not engage whole heartedly on a lot of fights but these facts can't be denied:

1)say what you will, he beat a 28 year old hopkins...and hopkins was no sloutch at that time. he definately had fresher legs and was much stronger and rugged...

2)toney was undefeated and pound for pound king when jones beat him. toney was ALWAYS having problems with his weight and no one thought anything of it until jones schooled him and everyone called foul.

3)look at jones' body. it's a middleweight body. and he climbed all the way to heavyweight...then went back down and lost 19lbs. in one month (yes ONE month as he was trying to seal a deal with tyson and not tarver so he was still holding that weight of 190+ those few months after the ruiz fight) to fight a hot tarver.

4)after fighting tarver and having two of the toughest fights of his life it was roy looking for him for his comeback...that doesn't seem to be a consistent attribute of a coward.

5)julio gonzalez beat dariuz, clinton woods gave gencoffe fits,

i like roy, but even i have to admit there was some fights he should have taken (benn, nun, jirov) solidify himself. but calling him a coward isn't right...as a fighter i believe that anyone who steps in that ring is risking their lives and i have seen first hand many unfortunate events because of the head trauma endured in the ring...it takes pure guts to get in the ring and do some 'soul searching'.

[Cali_Rob]

Basically, you'll find that a lot of the people who hate Roy just have bias within them for some silly reason or another, and they turn out to be hypocrites.

Take Martin here, our good friend from England. Talks about Roy's unwillingness to fight people, never cites other fighter's failures to become Roy's mandatory challenger, never cites how other fighters were not willing to fight the Champ in the U.S., and last, but not least...

Martin says all this BS about Roy's unwillingness to fight top guys and take risks, but Roy faced many top 10 fighters in his weight class, a few hall of famers, and yet Martin will naturally ignore this and cite only the skewed "facts" which support his agenda.

What makes Matin the worst hypocrite of all is his Calzaghe sig. Calzaghe ****ing backed out of a fight with GLEN JOHNSON...yeah, Joe has balls, lemme tell ya.

Damn.......That was nice.

[tonytucker]

No Show

The reason why so many people hate Roys gutz is because he is so arrogant that he does not even bother to turn up at the press conferences! He does not help in the promotion of the fight by doing this! This arogance that he displays is a disgrace to the sport of boxing! You would have thought that by after ****ting his pants in the ring, he would have finally come back down to earth but no!...he still continues to act in a disgusting "I Am Roy Jones The Best In The World" mode of behavior! And finally.....IF THERE IS ONE THING TUCKER CAN'T STAND IT IS *******S WHO SPEAK IN THE THIRD PERSON!!!
Later brother brologs.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Basically, you'll find that a lot of the people who hate Roy just have bias within them for some silly reason or another, and they turn out to be hypocrites.

Take Martin here, our good friend from England. Talks about Roy's unwillingness to fight people, never cites other fighter's failures to become Roy's mandatory challenger, never cites how other fighters were not willing to fight the Champ in the U.S., and last, but not least...

Martin says all this BS about Roy's unwillingness to fight top guys and take risks, but Roy faced many top 10 fighters in his weight class, a few hall of famers, and yet Martin will naturally ignore this and cite only the skewed "facts" which support his agenda.

What makes Matin the worst hypocrite of all is his Calzaghe sig. Calzaghe ****ing backed out of a fight with GLEN JOHNSON...yeah, Joe has balls, lemme tell ya.

Other fighters unwillingness to fight RJJ?... Now I've heard it all... LOL!...

You will also notice that there is incredible bias towards Roy Jones Junior, I kind of "blind faith" where as just because Roy says he's great, people believe it... I noticed further up this thread that people refered that to Muhammed Ali. - Difference being../ Muhammed Ali backed it up in the ring... Not only did he fight EVERYONE, he fought EVERYONE several times, and "so what", Muhammed Ali lost a few of them... That doesn't take anything away from his achievements.

Roy Jones Junior fought an endless list of Glen Kelly's and Clinton Woods all the time there were some really meaningfull fights out there he opted not to pursue.

Unfortunatly I had the miss fortune of having to explain his "career defining" fight when he ran from Ruiz for 12 rounds to my friends that are not so familiar with boxing.

They asked me what had happened to Lennox Lewis, "I thought Lennox Lewis was the Heavyweight champion of the World?... How come the papers are saying that RJJ is?"...

I replied - "It's called hood-winking my friend... Lennox Lewis [i]IS[/b] the real heavyweight champion, he hasn't gone anywhere.. This rubbish you're reading in the paper is just some pantomine thing, It's like someone telling you they're the greatest without backing it and fighting the right people... Ignore it."

[tonytucker]

Other fighters unwillingness to fight RJJ?... Now I've heard it all... LOL!...

You will also notice that there is incredible bias towards Roy Jones Junior, I kind of "blind faith" where as just because Roy says he's great, people believe it... I noticed further up this thread that people refered that to Muhammed Ali. - Difference being../ Muhammed Ali backed it up in the ring... Not only did he fight EVERYONE, he fought EVERYONE several times, and "so what", Muhammed Ali lost a few of them... That doesn't take anything away from his achievements.

Roy Jones Junior fought an endless list of Glen Kelly's and Clinton Woods all the time there were some really meaningfull fights out there he opted not to pursue.

Unfortunatly I had the miss fortune of having to explain his "career defining" fight when he ran from Ruiz for 12 rounds to my friends that are not so familiar with boxing.

They asked me what had happened to Lennox Lewis, "I thought Lennox Lewis was the Heavyweight champion of the World?... How come the papers are saying that RJJ is?"...

I replied - "It's called hood-winking my friend... Lennox Lewis [i]IS[/b] the real heavyweight champion, he hasn't gone anywhere.. This rubbish you're reading in the paper is just some pantomine thing, It's like someone telling you they're the greatest without backing it and fighting the right people... Ignore it."

Yes of course! I agree with what you are saying. However you must remember his easy win over Bernard Hopkins! That win alone was an outstanding achievement in his carrer!
Later brother brologs. P.S make sure you don't forget about his domination of James Toney!

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Yes of course! I agree with what you are saying. However you must remember his easy win over Bernard Hopkins! That win alone was an outstanding achievement in his carrer!
Later brother brologs. P.S make sure you don't forget about his domination of James Toney!

Yeah... The James Toney fight was the best performance I've ever seen from RJJ, and that was an excellent fight for him.

And that wasn't a fat overweight version of Toney... It was a James Toney in his prime. But that was way back in 1996' or 1997'. It's all this crap he's done since then "hood-winking" and trying to fool the not so knowledgeable boxing fans that he's sooo much better than all the other fighters just because he's dominating poor opposition.

Guy's like Barrera and Morales haven't had this route in boxing.

[tonytucker]

Brainwashed

Yeah... The James Toney fight was the best performance I've ever seen from RJJ, and that was an excellent fight for him.

And that wasn't a fat overweight version of Toney... It was a James Toney in his prime. But that was way back in 1996' or 1997'. It's all this crap he's done since then "hood-winking" and trying to fool the not so knowledgeable boxing fans that he's sooo much better than all the other fighters just because he's dominating poor opposition.

Guy's like Barrera and Morales haven't had this route in boxing.

I could not have said it better myself! So many people are brainwashed by the media hype! Jones would like to tell all the people that by beating Ruiz, he had defeated the "Real" champ. If he had of fought Lewis he would have been completely decimated!
Later brother brologs.

[Dude]

I don't hate RJJ. Actually I always liked him and wanted him to win against Tarver. I just don't think he was as great as a lot of people like to believe which makes me a hater in the eyes of some of his followers.

For example I believe he could've been beaten by Dariusz what is looked upon as some kind of blasphemy by some posters around here. Roy Jones was a great fighter and had a carefully constructed career. He's one of the Greats of the last decade but far from being the greatest. If that opinion makes me hater I can live with that.

[rudy]

He got a big mouth. People hate on Toney and Mayweather for the same reasons. They're the best so they talk the most.

I don't hate on Toney he is one of my favourite fighters, but Jones he talked a lot of shi* and ducked a lot of fighters Mayweather is not ducking people.

Listen I do not have time for a guy who wants to end up a cabbage he has been knocked out big time twice in a row accident waiting to happen