Dan Rafael: "A seven-day cutoff is quite REASONABLE but Floyd still REFUSED to budge"

[medium-deek]

Give it a rest.

Neither of these fighters will deal with anyone who will dictate terms to them. They don't need each other and make it blatantly obvious.

The sport itself needs this fight, but the fighters don't.

rubbish. no one. no one on gods earth would walk away from a $40 mil or so payday.

[IMDAZED]

yes...that fight was fixed anyways...there was nothing random about those tests

I agree. All fights are fixed.

[NesNY]

rubbish. no one. no one on gods earth would walk away from a $40 mil or so payday.

Manny's about to make $25m according to Bob.....

Floyd made $30m+ according to them vs. Mosley...

These guys can make $20m working the heavy bag on PPV...they simply don't need each other.

If Floyd really needed the $40m, he would've accepted the cutoff date.
If Manny truly needed the $40m, he would've accepted random OST.

Neither conceded fully because they can make the same money over two fights vs. other fighters.

Manny/Margo....he can make $25m
Manny/JMM retirement bout, he can make $20m

that's $45m over two EASY opponents. (JMM has virtually no shot at a welterweight or catchweight)....NO hassle, no insults, no bull**** testing, none of that.

And at this point....I'm perfectly fine if they don't fight.

[SCEN3RY]

Give it a rest.

Neither of these fighters will deal with anyone who will dictate terms to them. They don't need each other and make it blatantly obvious.

The sport itself needs this fight, but the fighters don't.

^^^it just shows by the way they talk they don't care about fighting each other, there's no urgency or anything, it's just 'if the fight happens, it happens, if it doesn't, so what?' And after all the nonsense that has surrounded this match up, I ain't even mad at that outlook...

[maguirre]

ask the company that tested PBF and Shane if 7 days was more than good enough...those fools stopped at 18

We'll soon see a pattern in the next Floyd vs Whoever fight. Tygart will eventually admit that he can't go beyond 18 days. Why? He's worried about getting sued and be held liable for endangering fighter by conducting tests close to the fight.

We'll see.

[bsinoka123]

No, they didn't. As far as Floyd and Mosley knew, they could still be tested at any time. What Pac's team is asking for is entirely different. They want a window where they are 100% sure they will not be tested. I'm not sure how you can't see or understand the difference.

Edit: And Dan Rafael is an idiot. If Usain Bolt said he didn't want to be tested the week leading up to a race, what would you think? Sorry, but the testing demand was fair, even though it is not standard in boxing at this point. It's an internationally recognized program, and completely safe for athletes.

Seven days is unreasonable for you because your mind is simply focused on the blood test. Urine test continues....unlimited, no cut-off period, anytime and probably anywhere. Show me any window of opportunity to cheat,

[Red_Menace]

Seven days is unreasonable for you because your mind is simply focused on the blood test. Urine test continues....unlimited, no cut-off period, anytime and probably anywhere. Show me any window of opportunity to cheat,

I just don't get it. WADA came up with their protocol for a reason. They're the experts, not me, and not Manny either. Why comply to that test, but with exceptions? Why not comply fully? WADA are the experts, whether people here choose to believe it or not, and their program has been safely practiced for a while now.

I'm still waiting for one good reason why Pac shouldn't agree to testing without cutoffs. So far I've heard the "his arm will be sore" excuse, which doesn't cut it.

[NesNY]

We'll soon see a pattern in the next Floyd vs Whoever fight. Tygart will eventually admit that he can't go beyond 18 days. Why? He's worried about getting sued and be held liable for endangering fighter by conducting tests close to the fight.

We'll see.

holy sh**T! Somebody with sense!


There will NEVER be a blood test taken even 10-14 days before a fight. A nicked vein or any minor complication can cause a postponement or cancellation.

If Manny wanted...he could accept full OST....wait to see when's the last time they take blood....and if it's too close to the fight..he can complain of numbness and/or pain.

And what happens to the fight?......exactly. Fight is off. Bets off. Everything off.

[pistol whip]

I'm still waiting for one good reason why Pac shouldn't agree to testing without cutoffs.

Well for one it's not required by any boxing commission in the world.

[Pullcounter]

ask the company that tested PBF and Shane if 7 days was more than good enough...those fools stopped at 18

exactly! a 7 day cut off is better than an 18 day cutoff