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    Kingslayer
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    #51
    Can't argue with this....

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    • Pullcounter
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      #52
      Originally posted by savorduhflavor
      This is the truth.

      Not one fighter/promoter tandem would do anything different if HBO gave them the option of making VERY good money while taking little risk.
      that's an incredibly short sighted strategy. That's what a B-fighter like Gatti would do because he knows if he steps up to the big boys he'd get spanked. If Berto is an A-fighter, he'll have to do better.

      What's the incentive to take on the big boys if you're already getting paid like one?
      again, a extremely shortsighted view. you take short money in the short run to make big money in the long run. you can't have your cake and eat it too.

      I don't like Berto, but this is entirely on HBO. You can't ask him to start taking less than he's already been making....HBO set the bar, and they set it wayyyy too high.
      of course they can. hbo can shelve berto until berto decides he'll take less money

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      • GRUSTLER
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        #53
        Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1
        Is Berto overpaid or is it that Berto isn't signed with Top Rank.
        I think it may be a little of both.

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        • savorduhflavor
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          #54
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          that's an incredibly short sighted strategy. That's what a B-fighter like Gatti would do because he knows if he steps up to the big boys he'd get spanked. If Berto is an A-fighter, he'll have to do better.


          again, a extremely shortsighted view. you take short money in the short run to make big money in the long run. you can't have your cake and eat it too.


          of course they can. hbo can shelve berto until berto decides he'll take less money
          That's exactly what he's doing...he's taking his cake and eating it too because HBO is giving him that option.

          I agree HBO could shelve him, but lets be real, HBO has some weird affinity for him that none of us can understand.

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          • WESS
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            #55
            booo to top rank

            This is how Arum works. Berto is not with Top Rank so he doesn't want to deal with him.

            Berto vs Cotto should be 50-50! If Cotto was still undefeated and champion at the top of his game than a 45-55 would be fair. Right now Berto is building a career and making money.

            f**K Arum, I like Cotto and Berto... 50-50, lets make it happen!

            In the mean time Arum we want the BEST FIGHTING THE BEST. Putting a top fighter in with Margarito is such a hypocritical contradiction....

            and people wonder why the best doesn't fight the best.... you have a POS like Arum making excuses why he doesn't want to put his fighters in with other fighters out of his protected stable....

            Maybe if Berto has been destroyed and beaten badly I bet he would jump all over it and might even throw Pac in with him.... Especially if he was washed up and coming of a loss....

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            • BillyBoxing
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              #56
              Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
              WBC welterweight champion Andre Berto is set to return on November 27 against Mexico's Freddy Hernandez at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. If successful, Berto has mentioned a number of desired opponents for 2011. One of the opponents at the top of Berto's list is WBA junior middleweight champion Miguel Cotto.

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              Berto is overpaid,and he's nothing to boxing,he sells because he's american and has that afro american style.IT SELLS.

              So you got guys like Malignaggi being stars,well known altough they bums and aren't even top 100 P4P.

              Berto did worse than Hatton against Urango and Collazo.
              Even Hatton could drop Collazo.
              He couldn't hurt Urango.It tells a lot.

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              • Capo Loko
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                #57
                Fight will happen and then Berto will retire Jotto for good. Let's go Berto!

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                • SluggerFan
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                  #58
                  Is Berto overpaid or is it that Berto isn't signed with Top Rank.
                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                  I think it may be a little of both.
                  I agree with Grustler on this one. Whichever way it is, I don't think the fight will ever happen. But I wouldn't mind seeing Berto fight the winner of Bradley vs. Alexander, which I think will be Bradley. Some very good fights could be made around 140-147....

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                  • Pin Galarga
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by WESS
                    This is how Arum works. Berto is not with Top Rank so he doesn't want to deal with him.

                    Berto vs Cotto should be 50-50! If Cotto was still undefeated and champion at the top of his game than a 45-55 would be fair. Right now Berto is building a career and making money.

                    f**K Arum, I like Cotto and Berto... 50-50, lets make it happen!

                    In the mean time Arum we want the BEST FIGHTING THE BEST. Putting a top fighter in with Margarito is such a hypocritical contradiction....

                    and people wonder why the best doesn't fight the best.... you have a POS like Arum making excuses why he doesn't want to put his fighters in with other fighters out of his protected stable....

                    Maybe if Berto has been destroyed and beaten badly I bet he would jump all over it and might even throw Pac in with him.... Especially if he was washed up and coming of a loss....
                    I agree with most of you point, but it would not be fair for Cotto, who has a huge following to go 50-50 with Berto who brings a very small percentage of fans and money. He will be lucky if they offer him 60-40 but that's not the problem. The problem is that the offer has not been made and will not be made and that is very unfair to the parties and the fans.
                    The old maricon doesn't negotiate any more. He tell the press and awaits for the begging call from Dibella, just like He's not negotiating with ANY other promoter.
                    The old maricon should retire since He's doing more harm than good right now.

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                    • Tomasio
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                      #60
                      Senile SCUMBAG Arum is so FULL OF S H I T!!! They haven't even made Berto an offer & Arum is already saying that he's gonna overprice himself!! That's the SAME S H I T T Y excuse Senile Arum has been using lately!!(said the same thing about Caballero when Cab wanted to fight Juanma & when Caballero wanted to fight Gamboa)..But yet Senile SCUMBAG Arum is gonna give untested "TOMATO CAN CONTENDER" Julito Chavez jr a good $$$$$$$$$ purse to fight Cotto for the title(probably even way MORE than what Berto would have asked)..It's very clear, if a good fighter is NOT a "Top Rank" fighter, he's NOT getting a chance at any of "Top Rank" Champions!!!! It's IN HOUSE fighting ALL THE WAY!!

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