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  • Ray*
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    #91
    Originally posted by ALG United
    Do you really think that Floyd can get away with that arrogant demands?!! This is not a bum he's talking to, he cannot demand something final without meeting any repercussions at the other end!!! It's like if Floyd says, "i'll fight you Manny but only if you wear no shoes at fight night", then Manny will say, "i will fight you Floyd but can i atleast wear some sandals that nike will provide for me". They are still in the middle of negotiation, Floyd asked for 0 days, Manny asked for the middle 7 days. Now my take is 7 days is clearly realistic enough and logical since that window will happen in the latter part of training wherein the fighters are tapering off already. So my question is, why will Floyd reject the 7 days window considering he views Manny as no threat, a one-dimensional come face forward brawler midget that he will dispose of at the sound of the first bell!!! So now why is 7 days still is too unreasonable to Floyd?!!! WTF??!!
    Arrogant demand? says who you? Pac is not obligated to accept anything and Mayweather is not obligated to negotate the fight if it doesnt suit him.

    Thats why the fight isnt happening, If Mayweather says drug test all the way up or no fight then thats it, No point in wasting time trying to negotate a drug test.

    Again, 14 days or 7 days is great but am not Mayweather or Pacquiao. Just dont come out and lie that you agreed to everything to do with the test when in fact you didnt.

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      #92
      Originally posted by titan_1987
      Then that's absolute for guys like you. NO NEGOTIATIONS until Pac agrees with a no cut-off day. That's just weak. All the more reason Floyd is ducking the fight because he doesn't want to come to the table and reach out for a compromised deal which would satisfy BOTH boxers.

      Floyd has to have the upper hand. Pacquiao should deserve less because he is a midget.
      GTOH with the "you guys quote".... Why negotate when the man already said no cut off or Zero fight? Why??? They have been negatating for almost a year now just to make one fight and the point is still the drug test.

      Mayweather already said he isnt fighting without it so we move on, Unless Mayweather is broke i dont see him agreeing to fighting Pac without the drug test all the way up to the fight.

      this isnt me supporting Mayweather stance but tell you and many others what we all know already which is "Drug test all the way up or NO fight"

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        #93
        Originally posted by Ray*
        Arrogant demand? says who you? Pac is not obligated to accept anything and Mayweather is not obligated to negotate the fight if it doesnt suit him.

        Thats why the fight isnt happening, If Mayweather says drug test all the way up or no fight then thats it, No point in wasting time trying to negotate a drug test.

        Again, 14 days or 7 days is great but am not Mayweather or Pacquiao. Just dont come out and lie that you agreed to everything to do with the test when in fact you didnt.
        Where does it say he lied? If Mayweather said that he agreed to the test, would you believe it?

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        • ALG United
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          #94
          Originally posted by Reloaded
          Why did they say they agreed to full OST when the fight with Margo was signed , the timeline is extremly important , they put that out there to justify fighting Marg , thats the context it was used in ,,,,,,,, now we find out that was not the case , that they did not agree on OST which off course means Pac not agreeing was stopping the May fight , but that wouldnt look too good for Pac ,,, if they had of come out then and said , we refuse to full OST and offered a 7 day cut off which Floyd declined and will now fight Margo they would have sunk ,,,,, but they didnt they lied to sell Margo ,,, if you boys followed all the bull**** in cronological order , *** me Arum and Pac are so full of holes they look like they got hit with a machine gun .
          You are still not answering my question, this thread is about the 7 days window, were you with Floyd when all of this happened. Were you with Ross Greenberg who said there was a negotiation that transpired, I guess not. I will now walk you through what might have happened, Arum might have asked a favor from Ross to start again a 2nd negotiation with team Floyd and relayed that Manny now is proposing a 7 days window. So when Ross revealed the good news with team Floyd, Floyd could have said two things, one "WTF is that, i am the king of the world so they should bow down upon me, 0 days or i'll go on vacation!!", or two "Oh ****, that's too close to my bluff, if i go on the table Manny might finally say yes to no cut-off, Ross just tell them i'm off for a vacation". Then when Manny learned about this he told Ross, "What, still no, tell them that i will agree to whatever Floyd wants!!", then when Ross returned to team Floyd, he shouted "Hey Floyd you got what you want, they are now willing to fight you on your terms!.... Hey Floyd, hey Floyd! Where are you!!". You see what i mean, we don't know squat so stop already with this conspiracy theories and answer my f****ing question, we now know that they brought up the 7 days window as a counter proposal, so what do you think of that? Straight and simple...

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          • AnthalaX
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            #95
            Originally posted by carts
            Brah did u voted on the thread titled is 14 day cutoff is fair??? dont lie lol..

            now *****s are here for their god saying 0 cutoff dates but they voted at 14 day cutoff is fair... lol hahahah so fakking 7 days isnt fair?? ****** hypocrites!!
            owned...

            they will just tell you its because Floyd said zero or no fight... that's their only defense... and its the most d*ckriding sense...

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            • IAMBIAZED
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              #96
              NOOOOO!!!!

              Please leave the discussion to the PEDS EXPERTS!!!

              Look what happened to Nigeria's PEDS and EPO USERS, caught red handed after their races on the commonwealth games but no, PED EXPERTS from boxingscene will always say ROIDMAN will flush out them EPO and PEDS after the last second. Hands down to all expert.

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                #97
                Originally posted by ALG United
                You are still not answering my question, this thread is about the 7 days window, were you with Floyd when all of this happened. Were you with Ross Greenberg who said there was a negotiation that transpired, I guess not. I will now walk you through what might have happened, Arum might have asked a favor from Ross to start again a 2nd negotiation with team Floyd and relayed that Manny now is proposing a 7 days window. So when Ross revealed the good news with team Floyd, Floyd could have said two things, one "WTF is that, i am the king of the world so they should bow down upon me, 0 days or i'll go on vacation!!", or two "Oh ****, that's too close to my bluff, if i go on the table Manny might finally say yes to no cut-off, Ross just tell them i'm off for a vacation". Then when Manny learned about this he told Ross, "What, still no, tell them that i will agree to whatever Floyd wants!!", then when Ross returned to team Floyd, he shouted "Hey Floyd you got what you want, they are now willing to fight you on your terms!.... Hey Floyd, hey Floyd! Where are you!!". You see what i mean, we don't know squat so stop already with this conspiracy theories and answer my f****ing question, we now know that they brought up the 7 days window as a counter proposal, so what do you think of that? Straight and simple...
                Why do you have all these scenaros to cover the facts that they have blatenly lied about accepting full OST at the time of signing Margo , they have there hand in the jar and the camera was running , present facts not maybe this or maybe that , because the only thing we really know is Team Pac lied .

                7 days I personally would accept that ,,, but my personal opinion doesnt change anything on the right or wrong of this ,,, Manny is wrong he should not be trying to make deals that undermine PEDS testing of athletes , you boys are running on hype and hate and thats the pespective you see , the ground zero of this is Floyd has a right to ask and as a sportsman Manny should not try and water it down it should off just been sure no problems .

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Reloaded
                  Why do you have all these scenaros to cover the facts that they have blatenly lied about accepting full OST at the time of signing Margo , they have there hand in the jar and the camera was running , present facts not maybe this or maybe that , because the only thing we really know is Team Pac lied .

                  7 days I personally would accept that ,,, but my personal opinion doesnt change anything on the right or wrong of this ,,, Manny is wrong he should not be trying to make deals that undermine PEDS testing of athletes , you boys are running on hype and hate and thats the pespective you see , the ground zero of this is Floyd has a right to ask and as a sportsman Manny should not try and water it down it should off just been sure no problems .
                  Manny is wrong he should not be trying to make deals that undermine PEDS testing of athletes , you boys are running on hype and hate and thats the pespective you see , the ground zero of this is Floyd has a right to ask and as a sportsman Manny should not try and water it down it should off just been sure no problems .

                  Question: Is OST required on STANDARD BOXING MATCHES? Undermines? Goodness gracious, was this even part of the test that was undermind? You make it sound like some very important law was broken.

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                  • ALG United
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    Arrogant demand? says who you? Pac is not obligated to accept anything and Mayweather is not obligated to negotate the fight if it doesnt suit him.

                    Thats why the fight isnt happening, If Mayweather says drug test all the way up or no fight then thats it, No point in wasting time trying to negotate a drug test.

                    Again, 14 days or 7 days is great but am not Mayweather or Pacquiao. Just dont come out and lie that you agreed to everything to do with the test when in fact you didnt.
                    Yes Floyd is arrogant like you are, demanding something without compromises!!! At the height of Tyson's career he did a similar thing when he demanded a stricter drug test from Holyfield, then Holyfield countered by demanding back that Tyson will only know the results after the fight and Tyson oblige. Tyson was the king of the world then but still he gave in to the compromises, so what makes Floyd any different from Tyson?!!!

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                    • IAMBIAZED
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                      #100
                      But then again, Jr ain't top of the world. Let me refresh the person who thinks Jr was top: He was retired. Like, 2 year maybe?

                      Originally Posted by Ray*

                      Just dont come out and lie that you agreed to everything to do with the test when in fact you didnt.
                      I also remember a certain someone who said he was on vacation so he can't accept the fight only for his man-lover to say "No negotiations have taken place".

                      Let me rephase that: Just dont come out and lie that say you didn't know about the negotiations when in fact you did.

                      No need to thank me.

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