Comments Thread For: Mormeck Talks Rahman Fight, Klitschko's Offer, Haye

[WladIsTheChamp]

For some reason, I don't believe the referee should have stopped the Briggs fight. I think when you have a 50+ fight veteran in the ring and he looks like he's getting really hurt, then you should stop the fight. Even though Briggs looked defenseless at times, I never really thought that Briggs was in serious concussive danger. I would not have argued a stoppage obviously, but when a true warrior doesn't give in and would rather be taken out on his shield, then so be it! He never even took a knee. I think some blame has to be given to the fighter for not taking a knee if they are in serious trouble. In any event, I saw Briggs getting hit with clean shots, but they didn't seem to be KO worthy. In a Heavyweight Championship fight where you have some seriously experienced fighters, then I don't think it should be stopped unless its certain and catastrophic danger on the horizon. I just don't think this was one of those times.

A fighter needs to be saved from themselves sometimes, going out on your shield sometimes means being crippled for life or worse, it looked like that's what Briggs was getting from round 10 and on. If I could see it from my TV, then I am sure his corner saw it. The results speak for themselves - concussion, burst eardrum, broken nose, two broken orbital bones, and ruptured bicep muscle, it should have been stopped. Most fighters would have had a bleeding in the brain after that kind of beating, I guess he has a hard head. Jirov didn't land anything against Mesi and lost the fight but gave him a career-ending injury that could have killed him, with head trauma, it's injuries that we can't see that are the most dangerous, refs and corners should (and most do except the as*hole that night and Briggs' idiot greedy corners) and do know about this.

[jrosales13]

That's exactly the problem, Wlad is offering good money but he is not going to offer retirement fund type of money to a Mormeck or a Tua type fighter. It's not really Wlad's fault that all these top boxers have no confidence in winning so they want that last retirement paycheck when Wlad beats the **** out of them. The Klitschkos are not a retirement foundation for boxers, you either become a mandatory or become marketable like Diva Gaye, but hell, even for $2.5 million you have fighters ducking them, so I am not sure that the Klitschkos can do anything. They are both more feared than Tyson or any other HW in history at this point... when you have guys like Lewis turning down a $30 million shot against Vitaly, and Povetkin ducking his mandatory for 2 years and foregoing a $2.5 million payday and Gaye running scared from a 50/50 shot that will probably net him at leat $10 mil. You know the most feared HW champs in history are...

Wlad shouldn't be offering Mormeck anything.

Wlad should not be in the ring with that type of figher.

[WladIsTheChamp]

Wlad shouldn't be offering Mormeck anything.

Wlad should not be in the ring with that type of figher.

Well if Gaye is ducking a 50/50 offer, Povetkin is ducking a mandatory position for $2.5 million, Dimtrenko declined his offer, Adamek declined an offer, Tua declined his offer, Toney was ruled ineligible by the sanctioning bodies, who else you want him to fight?

Mormeck is good as anyone left that Wlad hasn't beaten. They are closer in age than Gaye and his opponents are.

[Tiozzo]

rahman is not exactly the best choice for a step up match.rahman is big,can punch & has some skill.the winner is right up near the top to fight haye.if rahman(big if)gets in shape he will crush mormeck imo.who thought rahman would get this close to a title shot again after his poor performance vs wlad? i did just like i said briggs & tua would get shots.ray austin is 1 fight away again as well....all 37 & above & people say the division isn't weak? its a ****ing recycling bin...lol!

I agree

the recycle bin is a very accurate way to describe the division

Mormeck is delusional, he has come back just to make some more money, but his stamina issues are worse than ever before, he was dead tired against Maddalone, and he was trying to buy time

also, he has totally changed his bully style, and I don't know how far this will get him or if it will be his downfall at some point

to me, Mormeck is not even in the picture

as you said, if Rahman has a bit left, he should knock him out

Wlad vs Mormeck would last 3 or 4 rounds

[jrosales13]

Well if Gaye is ducking a 50/50 offer, Povetkin is ducking a mandatory position for $2.5 million, Dimtrenko declined his offer, Adamek declined an offer, Tua declined his offer, Toney was ruled ineligible by the sanctioning bodies, who else you want him to fight?

Mormeck is good as anyone left that Wlad hasn't beaten. They are closer in age than Gaye and his opponents are.

There are better HWs than Tua, Toney, and Mormeck. Tua had to have a gift decision against Barrett, and Toney? COme of FFS's.

And, no Mormeck is not as good anyone left.

Those 3 don't belong in the ring with somebody like Wlad.

And, can I see the link where Dimitrenko declined? Not saying is not ture just haven't read it yet.

[Tiozzo]

There are better HWs than Tua, Toney, and Mormeck. Tua had to have a gift decision against Barrett, and Toney? COme of FFS's.

And, no Mormeck is not as good anyone left.

Those 3 don't belong in the ring with somebody like Wlad.

And, can I see the link where Dimitrenko declined? Not saying is not ture just haven't read it yet.

in all fairness, who is better and ready/willing to fight ?

Holyfield ?

[WladIsTheChamp]

There are better HWs than Tua, Toney, and Mormeck. Tua had to have a gift decision against Barrett, and Toney? COme of FFS's.

And, no Mormeck is not as good anyone left.

Those 3 don't belong in the ring with somebody like Wlad.

And, can I see the link where Dimitrenko declined? Not saying is not ture just haven't read it yet.

It's been on this site, I am not going through the time to look for a link, but his people turned a fight down for the Dec. 11th date.

[jrosales13]

It's been on this site, I am not going through the time to look for a link, but his people turned a fight down for the Dec. 11th date.

You right he did, he said he was low balled. Is that true? What was the offer?

He said Chisora also got the same offer that he did and turned it down. But, K2 promotions raised up the price for Chisora.

But, I guess not for Dimitrenko.

Is what he speak of correct?

[jrosales13]

in all fairness, who is better and ready/willing to fight ?

Holyfield ?

Solis is,

TBH I would prefer a rematch with Tony Thompson than those 3 candidates. Hell if Peter got a rematch why not Thompson who is better than Peter.

I would prefer Arreola over those 3 candidates.

And, I think both are better than the Chisora option also.

Just my opinion.

[WladIsTheChamp]

in all fairness, who is better and ready/willing to fight ?

Holyfield ?

Seriously, you got Helenius, but I doubt he would have taken the fight. Boytsov got injured and just hand surgery, Valuev is recovering post surgery. Solis is waiting for his mando shot at Vitaly after Austin. There is no there. If Arreola would have beaten Quezada in an impressive fashion I am sure Wlad would have considered him. Gomez was trying to get a shot at Wlad but Wlad wouldn't think of it after the way he quit against Vitaly (turning his back).

The Klitschkos have cleaned out the division, every top fighter has either already been beaten by them or has declined a shot against them, they now have to go to really for really green guys (Johnson, Chisora) or older has-beens (Mormeck, Briggs, Tua).

Just like Gotzev, Peter's manager said, Peter can still be very competitive in the division, just not against the bros, they are on a different level.