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  • The Hammer
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    #21
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    You right he did, he said he was low balled. Is that true? What was the offer?

    He said Chisora also got the same offer that he did and turned it down. But, K2 promotions raised up the price for Chisora.

    But, I guess not for Dimitrenko.

    Is what he speak of correct?
    Wow, you're really reaching....

    But we all know why you hate Wladimir Klitschko so much.

    You racist bastard.

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    • WladIsTheChamp
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      #22
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Solis is,

      TBH I would prefer a rematch with Tony Thompson than those 3 candidates. Hell if Peter got a rematch why not Thompson who is better than Peter.

      I would prefer Arreola over those 3 candidates.

      And, I think both are better than the Chisora option also.

      Just my opinion.
      Solis declined a shot already, Wlad's people called him up before the Rahman fight when Povetkin got injured the first time. He is waiting for his mando position against Vitaly, there have been articles about this as well, although I am not going to post a link.


      Tony The Tiger? Come on man.... First Petter II was a mandatory, so he got that out of the way, second Peter had Wlad in trouble in their first fight. Thompson NEVER had Wlad in trouble...

      BTW, both Peter and Thompson were Wlad's sparring partners at one point.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Freedom Fighter
        Wow, you're really reaching....

        But we all know why you hate Wladimir Klitschko so much.

        You racist bastard.
        How am I reaching by stating what Dimitrenko said?

        Did Dimitrenko not say this?

        Is that what you saying?

        And, how am I being racist here exactly? By "taking shots"(not really but just plaing a long with you) at a Ukrainian in Wlad and "defending" Ukrainian in Dimitrenko?

        WTF?

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          #24
          Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
          Solis declined a shot already, Wlad's people called him up before the Rahman fight when Povetkin got injured the first time. He is waiting for his mando position against Vitaly, there have been articles about this as well, although I am not going to post a link.


          Tony The Tiger? Come on man.... First Petter II was a mandatory, so he got that out of the way, second Peter had Wlad in trouble in their first fight. Thompson NEVER had Wlad in trouble...

          BTW, both Peter and Thompson were Wlad's sparring partners at one point.
          Bro, the Rahman fight was last year has nothing to do with Dec 11. Correct?

          Tony>Peter. Right now Thompson is just a better fighter than Peter. How can you say other wise?

          And, lets be honest the Wlad-Peter rematch was just 3 years too late.This was not the same version of Peter that fought Wlad the first time. And, this version of Wlad IMO is much improved and more confident than that version of Wlad in the first fight. Do you not agree?

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            #25
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            You right he did, he said he was low balled. Is that true? What was the offer?

            He said Chisora also got the same offer that he did and turned it down. But, K2 promotions raised up the price for Chisora.

            But, I guess not for Dimitrenko.

            Is what he speak of correct?
            I don't think the offer details are known, and ofcrouse Dimitrenko's people are going to say that, but come on, after loosing to Chambers, Wlad's victim, what do they expect? A 50/50? He probably was getting at least $500K, I am sure of it.

            That's the problem with all these prima donnas or maybe it's the fault of us fans, whever a fighter looses in boxing, we immediately yell "oh, see, he is a bum" so they are all scared to get those losses on their records and avoid tough competition and we get ducking like Mayweather/Pac, Williams/Martine, Klitschkos/Anyone(Gaey especially). Unlike MMA, where a 13-6 guy is still good because there is no careful matchmaking, it's the best fighting the best.

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              #26
              Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
              Seriously, you got Helenius, but I doubt he would have taken the fight. Boytsov got injured and just hand surgery, Valuev is recovering post surgery. Solis is waiting for his mando shot at Vitaly after Austin. There is no there. If Arreola would have beaten Quezada in an impressive fashion I am sure Wlad would have considered him. Gomez was trying to get a shot at Wlad but Wlad wouldn't think of it after the way he quit against Vitaly (turning his back).

              The Klitschkos have cleaned out the division, every top fighter has either already been beaten by them or has declined a shot against them, they now have to go to really for really green guys (Johnson, Chisora) or older has-beens (Mormeck, Briggs, Tua).

              Just like Gotzev, Peter's manager said, Peter can still be very competitive in the division, just not against the bros, they are on a different level.
              Here is my problem with that statement. Mormeck hasn't beaten any HW impressively but he still got an offer. So why not Arreola?

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                #27
                Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
                I don't think the offer details are known, and ofcrouse Dimitrenko's people are going to say that, but come on, after loosing to Chambers, Wlad's victim, what do they expect? A 50/50? He probably was getting at least $500K, I am sure of it.

                That's the problem with all these prima donnas or maybe it's the fault of us fans, whever a fighter looses in boxing, we immediately yell "oh, see, he is a bum" so they are all scared to get those losses on their records and avoid tough competition and we get ducking like Mayweather/Pac, Williams/Martine, Klitschkos/Anyone(Gaey especially). Unlike MMA, where a 13-6 guy is still good because there is no careful matchmaking, it's the best fighting the best.
                Do you know what Chisora is getting paid?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  Bro, the Rahman fight was last year has nothing to do with Dec 11. Correct?

                  Tony>Peter. Right now Thompson is just a better fighter than Peter. How can you say other wise?

                  And, lets be honest the Wlad-Peter rematch was just 3 years too late.This was not the same version of Peter that fought Wlad the first time. And, this version of Wlad IMO is much improved and more confident than that version of Wlad in the first fight. Do you not agree?
                  I do agree that Wlad is much better, much more confident but Peter was in better shape for Wlad II than he has been in years. Sure he got the stuffing beat out of him by two Kltischko already and had the close decision loss to Chambers, but it's not like he is shot, he was in great shape and got his mando position back. You can't say that he is past it in anyway, against anyone but a Klistchko, he is still a dangerous opponent, he would still be champ if it wasn't for them, we would probably see the belts held by Chagaev, Peter, and Povetkin, with very competitive match-ups happening if the Klitschkos were gone.

                  Thompson is almost 40, his best days are behind him and I don't think he is going to do anything significant, Peter would beat Thompson if he were to come in the shape he did against Wlad II and with the same focus.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    Do you know what Chisora is getting paid?
                    $300K -$400K plus a % of PPV sales but we don't know how much.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      Here is my problem with that statement. Mormeck hasn't beaten any HW impressively but he still got an offer. So why not Arreola?
                      Because of his last three showing plus a quittage loss to big bro Vitaly (that matters). Quittage loss to Vitaly, loss to Adamek, and not a very impressive victory over Quezada. If he had beaten Adamek and Quezada impressively, I garauntee you Wlad would be fighting him now. Mormeck is a proven champ, ring champ, at CW who had Gaye in trouble, I think he has something.

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