~~Official NSB Poll: Does Margarito use his height/reach?~~

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  • Spray_resistant
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    #21
    This is what you are asking Burner is if Marg fought tall, used distance, and kept opponents away with his longer arms jabbing and the answer is obviously no, he uses his strength and usually a size advantage to wear down opponents beating them into submission.

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    • FeFist
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      #22
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Scared? Never said that, but avoided the hell out of him? Refused to say his name? You damn right they did.



      Maybe you should of followed the WW division in the turn of the century a little bit more closely.
      Okay since you know so much provide the names of the fighters who ''avoided'' him along with the matching date.

      I'm more willing to concede that Margarito was a beast who was avoided by everyone if you can prove it to me.

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      • jrosales13
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        #23
        Originally posted by FeFist
        Okay since you know so much provide the names of the fighters who ''avoided'' him along with the matching date.

        I'm more willing to concede that Margarito was a beast who was avoided by everyone if you can prove it to me.
        If you don't know by now. Then what more can I say that would make you concede?

        Judah straight out said that he didn't want anything to do with Marg,

        Shane said Floyd should fight Marg in Nov of 06. But, also said "then again I wouldn't fight Margarito in November either." From Shane own mouth.

        King didn't want Mayorga to fight Margarito at all.

        Winky was offered 4mil to fight Marg and he said he wanted the 8mil that Floyd was guaranteed. Like if he was on Floyd level marketability wise.

        And, then there is the whole Floyd thing. I am tired of debating. If you don't think Floyd duck Marg then so be it.

        For anybody who really followed the WW divison at the turn of the century. If you don't know by now. Then there is by any means any reason to keep on debating. Because, nothing will changle your mind. You already have your opinion. And, I am actually to tired of debating Marg and bringing up links. Why not do your own homework.

        Have a good night.

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        • pasawayako
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          #24
          Against pac his size is useless because of pac speed, but to the other fighter his size is a major factor.

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          • razor.thin
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            #25
            margarito is a far toughter fight for pacquiao than mayweather.

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            • MACAQUEINBLACK
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              #26
              His natural size is a factor in the success of his style at 147,

              and this guy makes a great point,

              Originally posted by mesher
              his height and reach (in other words, his size) come in to play more so in the leverage he gets with his punches and being able to get to you faster with his longer legs (chasing down cotto), not the traditional sense of using height and reach to box on the outside....
              which, apart from being a very sound observation, nuances the question.


              But his style down the years has given up most of the pure strategic advantages that height and length classically give to a boxer, and I think that's what we're talking about, so, overall, I'd vote no.

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              • Phenom
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                #27
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                His reign in the WW division was due to his size, strength, chin, heavy hands(yes he has heavy hands), toughness and intangibles.

                That is what he brought to the table at WW. That is what made a lot of WW not dare to mention his name. throughout the years.

                That is why he wasn't successful at the higher weights as he was at WW. Because, he didn't have the size nor strength advantage.

                That is why I always prefered the WW Margarito>the JMW Margarito.

                To say he didn't use these as tools is just insane.

                Did he fight tall like a Klitschko? No he didn't. But, did he use his size and strength>WWs? Yes he did.
                I think your confusing Paul Williams with Margarito it happens

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                • jrosales13
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Phenom
                  I think your confusing Paul Williams with Margarito it happens
                  I think you really don't watch boxing, maybe you should more or try to do your homework of boxing prior Floyd-Oscar.

                  Just saying....

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                  • Phenom
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    I think you really don't watch boxing, maybe you should more or try to do your homework of boxing prior Floyd-Oscar.

                    Just saying....



                    yeah I guess I should have done more research on Margarito being avoided by welterweights because of his size and his outside boxing skills obviously nobody wanted to get UD by Margarito


                    I must have not been following boxing that close

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                    • DrewWoodside
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by -Top Rank-
                      I think the "size advantage" will not be in the traditonal sense, such as Margarito staying on the outside, and/or use his height and reach advantage to beat Pacquiao.

                      To me, I think Margarito will have a size advantage in the sense that he is not draining himself and will actually come in weighing more than normal. The biggest thing this does is improve his punch resistence, and if size is a factor, it will be in this area.

                      Think about it, in every instance in which a guy is considerable larger, his punch resistance goes up tremendously. Look at recent bouts such as Peterson vs Rios, and the Chris Martin vs Chris Avalos fight.

                      In both fights, you can tell size played a part as neither Peterson or Avalos punches had much, if any, effect as far as keeping the bigger guy from coming forward.

                      Not saying it will happen, but it is possible that Margarito starts walking through a lot of Manny shots especially if he is over 165 come fight night.

                      Again it's not so much height and reach, rather punch resistance that works in favor of the bigger fighter....especially if there is a 15-20lb difference on fight night.
                      This post was based on information and a lack of bias. It doesn't support the Ts' blatant and obvious agenda. Save your non partisan energy.

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