Eastern Europeans vs. Cuban Boxers

[jrosales13]

If you're talking Amateur Boxing & continents, Central/South America vs Europe take a look at the 2009 World Championship results. Europe > American's at the lighter weight divisions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Wo..._Championships

Amateurs? I would agree.

But, the question was who produces better fighters. And, IMO the pros is where you get that answer.

And, Latin America>Europe....

However, in the heavier divisions(Like SMW and above) no doubt Europe, mainly Eastern Europe>Latin America.

[KnockUTheFukOut]

unfortunately it has been many great Cuban Amateurs that never went Pro so it is really hard to say right now, now that they are starting to defect and turning Pro I guess we will find out now

Definitely Cubans are better boxers. They aren't so stiff and extremely technically sound. There are exceptions though. Lucian Bute from Romania isn't stiff

I guess you haven't been watching Amateurs lately, the next generation of Eastern European Fighters don't fight anything like that

[jrosales13]

IMO if we just doing amateur and just one country.

Then both Cuba and Russia are have the two best amateur program. Year after year those 2 countries in Amateur World champion these 2 countries are usually always in the top 2 switching spots.

[537Bwouaye]

Korobov, Pirog, Tishchenko, Lomachenko, Romanchuk, etc all really stiff robots. You're 1960's era American stereotypes are amusing.

2005 World cup of Boxing, Cuba Russia final

CUBA RUSSIA Result
– 48 kg Yan Bartelemí Sergey Kazakov 26 – 14
– 51 kg Andry Laffita Georgy Balakshin 36 – 22
– 54 kg Guillermo Rigondeaux Maxim Khalikov 37 – 21
– 57 kg Yuriorkis Gamboa Aleksei Tishchenko 27 – 45
– 60 kg Yordenis Ugás Murat Khrachev 50 – 30
– 64 kg Carlos Banteux Oleg Komissarov 25 – 30
– 69 kg Erislandy Lara Andrey Balanov 21 – 36
– 75 kg Yordanis Despaigne Matvey Korobov 39 – 53
– 81 kg Ismaikel Pérez Evgeny Makarenko 31 – 47
– 91 kg Luis Ortíz Roman Romanchuk 47 – 64
+ 91 kg Odlanier Solis Islam Timurziev 26 – 27
4 wins 7 wins 365 – 389

Russia wins 7-4.

Lara, Despaigne, Solis, Gamboa all lose.


One thing that can't be debated is how often Cubans are undisciplined, lazy, or primeadonns once they hit the pro ranks. Something you rarely if ever find amongst the Europeans.

hahaha it's funny how you need to go looking for a particular year in order to "try" to prove your point... why don't you bring up the stats of every world cup/olympics of the last 20 years?? except the last olympics, the stats will all be against you, and I'm only taking those olympics out of the equation because Cuba's best boxers defected or tried to and got banned, so they had to prepare a new team.

[Steelhammer2011]

Eastern European fighters are superior.

There are tons of Eastern European world champions. How many Cuban world champions are there?

Eastern Europeans are taking over pro boxing and are completely dominating the amatuers.

[Joeyzagz]

I don't understand why pick a whole region with numerous countries against just ONE country?

Why not pick one country like Ukraine or whoever but one country against one country like Cuba is?

Can you answer that for me TS?

Wow I didnt expect to see YOU in this thread! lol


I agree with you, mate. If we are going by population percentage then Cuba PWNs eastern Europe walking away.

[Joeyzagz]

UK fighters are the Superior combatants, both percentage-wise and overall.

Heavyweight, 140, 175, 168, and all-time they have greats like Fitzsimmons, Jimmy Wilde and Ted Kid Lewis. No one can fuck with the Queen.

[yessuh]

Eastern Europe >>>>> Latin America

[boxingking500]

hahaha it's funny how you need to go looking for a particular year in order to "try" to prove your point... why don't you bring up the stats of every world cup/olympics of the last 20 years?? except the last olympics, the stats will all be against you, and I'm only taking those olympics out of the equation because Cuba's best boxers defected or tried to and got banned, so they had to prepare a new team.

vasyl lomanchenko (ukraine)... p4p better than any cuban amateur currently..

[537Bwouaye]

Eastern European fighters are superior.

There are tons of Eastern European world champions. How many Cuban world champions are there?

Eastern Europeans are taking over pro boxing and are completely dominating the amatuers.

Lol at every dude with a pic of a Klit trying to make an argument out of this.

I have a simple question for you: How many pro Eastern Europeans is there right now? Hundreds, right? (even thousands maybe?)

How many pro Cubans there is right now? You really want to know? .... Not even 50.... and yet Cubans already have an unified champ, probably another champ next month (Rigondeaux), and almost 10 other ranked prospects in the top 15 of either the WBA, WBC, WBO or IBF.

So you can turn this anyway you want... but at the end of the day, per capita, Cuba is becoming the #1 P4P boxing country by far (in the pros that is... which should really ashame you, so I kinda understand your insecurity and nonsense right now).

EDIT: Oh and btw, if you look at the poll score, it's kinda funny to notice how the international opinion thinks that a whole continent can be challenged by a small island. The thread creator failed soooo much in trying to prove his ****** point, that he had to say that Cuba represented the whole Latin America now. The thing is, he knows that everyone vote before even reading the discussion, so the results show what they were supposed to show: your continent vs Cuba... add to that, that there is dozens of Eastern Europeans in this board and maybe like 5-6 Cubans lol shame on you...
EDIT2: Thread creator is on a raid against Cubans.. He's starting a lot of threads trying to prove his point and gain some support hahahah this is hilarious dawg!!!